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Sanders couldn't name one CEO that he would have sent to jail after the economic collapse [View all] ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 OP

Jesus Christ. You want a major candidate to allege that specific people thereismore Jan 2016 #1

Hasn't Bernie already been alleging that crimes were committed? nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #2

Where did he say that? Do you have the quote? Green Forest Jan 2016 #4

From his speech today: Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #7

Yes, I would like an answer from SBS on this. n/t MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #13

So you expect Bernie to specify who committed what crime? Really? Green Forest Jan 2016 #21

Why wouldn't he? Isn't one of his attributes the willingness to speak truth to power, regardless Empowerer Jan 2016 #33

He already has. And will continue to, unlike his critics. Green Forest Jan 2016 #40

He's not in this case. And you defend him for not calling them out Empowerer Jan 2016 #45

It would be idiotic and irresponsible to call out specific individuals. TM99 Jan 2016 #47

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #44

Lies, distortions and smears. TM99 Jan 2016 #51

jane enid602 Jan 2016 #68

I don't take people seriously who can't spell TM99 Jan 2016 #72

hypocrisy enid602 Jan 2016 #81

Who committed a felon? TM99 Jan 2016 #82

jane enid602 Jan 2016 #97

Nope, still false. TM99 Jan 2016 #98

That same logic could be applied to the bankers you laud Sanders for going after mythology Jan 2016 #124

hypocrisy enid602 Jan 2016 #92

No really she did not. TM99 Jan 2016 #94

Except she didn't AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #129

Hey, get this straiaght. Naming names is something else. It's the timing. When Cal33 Jan 2016 #107

I see Empowerer Jan 2016 #116

It's the plain common-sense way to have things like this done. Bernie strikes me as having Cal33 Jan 2016 #134

From his own website ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #8

Grand juries allege crimes (called indictments) angrychair Jan 2016 #9

Then Bernie can't have it both ways treestar Jan 2016 #11

He can have it any way he wants. It is called having an opinion. I respect him for it... Green Forest Jan 2016 #24

inconsistency in opinions treestar Jan 2016 #140

Reread my reply. Bernie knows more than he is telling. Your opinion about illogical claims rings true regarding Hillary, though... Green Forest Jan 2016 #146

If he knows of a specific instance of a specific act of crime treestar Jan 2016 #147

President Sanders will do that after a thorough and independent investigation by his Justice Dep't. Green Forest Jan 2016 #149

Crimes were committed angrychair Jan 2016 #34

There was a shooting in KCMO this afternoon -none Jan 2016 #87

Thank you. deathrind Jan 2016 #106

A shooting is a more concrete event treestar Jan 2016 #141

I responded logically to your original question. -none Jan 2016 #148

From the horse's mouth: Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #12

I take the increased number of attacks on Bernie as a sign the Hillary camp is worried. reformist2 Jan 2016 #27

Just wail 'til tomorrow. winter is coming Jan 2016 #35

Its 2008 All over again for the Hillary campaign INdemo Jan 2016 #77

Who are people he says committed 'illegal behavior" from his speech today??... riversedge Jan 2016 #70

Go easy on him. Maedhros Jan 2016 #71

This entire thread is frightening. Lots of posts trying to 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #90

And it would have been irresponsible to do so. TM99 Jan 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author KittyWampus Jan 2016 #25

They stay up very late at night and watch Fox News INdemo Jan 2016 #80

Yeah that'd go over big Armstead Jan 2016 #5

There You Go Again.... global1 Jan 2016 #6

You may think fraud that collapsed the mmonk Jan 2016 #10

If it's fraud, cite the law and name the people. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #16

What about when Holder, the fucking attorney general, said that some institutions were too important JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #19

Cite the law that was broken by a CEO of these firms. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #20

I don't know, I'm not a criminal prosecutor. That is not where my training lies. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #22

Jamie Dimon Felonies Yallow Jan 2016 #31

I'll bite MFrohike Jan 2016 #130

The SEC routinely negotiates away felonies. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #133

There isa a huige difference between criminal prosecution of a corporation and the criminal ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #32

Ah, I am mistaken. Thanks. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #43

It is by design ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #46

Which is a systemic problem that Sanders is trying to address Armstead Jan 2016 #143

No he's not ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #145

If there is more accouontability.... Armstead Jan 2016 #156

all that proves is that it is not black and white treestar Jan 2016 #142

Jesus it is hard to take y'all seriously. TM99 Jan 2016 #23

Impressive post, and I appreciate all the work that went into it. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #28

To be honest, there IS one CEO that could have been prosecuted ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #37

Now, that is interesting. I missed that for some reason, even though.. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #53

You have been presented with what laws were broken. TM99 Jan 2016 #41

Sorry, that's not the way corporate law works in this country. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #55

Bullshit. TM99 Jan 2016 #59

Show me the evidence, or at least a reason for criminal... MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #63

So you do not read any of the links presented to you? TM99 Jan 2016 #66

Jamie Dimon. RICO maybe, definitely fraud to investors, 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #79

Thank you for some sanity in this thread. /nt think Jan 2016 #30

Rating junk AAA (the highest investment grade) mmonk Jan 2016 #54

I completely agree, the ratings angencies were probably most responsible for what happened. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #57

Lotta big talk. redstateblues Jan 2016 #126

Thanks for linking this analysis. FloridaBlues Jan 2016 #14

Whoa! Exposed! So gimmicky. R B Garr Jan 2016 #15

Exactamundo. ucrdem Jan 2016 #17

K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #18

That would be a very foolish thing to do. Glad he didn't do it. senz Jan 2016 #26

I haven't watched the video; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #29

He actually did name Jamie Dimon, but didnt specifically say he should be in jail, even tho we all litlbilly Jan 2016 #42

But, as with most white collar crime ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #49

the fact is, they never even get prosecuted at all, so they completely get away with it. Unless, litlbilly Jan 2016 #60

That's not a true statement. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #76

Hello. Enron? MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #86

Presidential Material People Do Not Name Names - Period Yallow Jan 2016 #36

That's "wouldn't" not "couldn't". and if you're liberal, I'm Santa Claus. HERVEPA Jan 2016 #38

I supported Howard Dean in 2004. You can check out my post history from 2003 on DU. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #48

Sorry, with all the crap posts against Bernie, don't buy it. HERVEPA Jan 2016 #83

Boom, here's proof ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #101

Sorry. Doesn't prove you are liberal. You can be for Hillary without constantly tearing down Bernie HERVEPA Jan 2016 #108

You asked for my proof of being a Howard Dean supporter. ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #109

I asked for proof you were liberal. Never asked for Howard Dean proof. You misinterpreted my comment HERVEPA Jan 2016 #111

Who did you support in the 2003/04 primary? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #112

Kerry. And this is irrelevant to my statement about whether you are liberal. HERVEPA Jan 2016 #115

OMG, cant believe you went there. You might want to rethink your handle. litlbilly Jan 2016 #39

I'm tired of people running away from the label "liberal." ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #50

I'm tired of third way er's Co-Opting the word Liberal bahrbearian Jan 2016 #67

My positions are liberal. ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #78

Liberal is now coopted by the right. Waiting for Someone Jan 2016 #85

I'm tired of Socialists redstateblues Jan 2016 #128

And earlier in the day PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #52

He named a lot of criminal activity notadmblnd Jan 2016 #56

Great points DJ13 Jan 2016 #118

Yeah, they seem to drop off the face of the earth when shown the truth. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #132

Hillarians are just being obtuse. earthside Jan 2016 #58

You just found out how clean he is. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #61

He's had eight years to move on this. He hasn't. ucrdem Jan 2016 #62

Not paying attention again are we? TM99 Jan 2016 #69

Yes I read his "too big to fail" bill. ucrdem Jan 2016 #89

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #95

Yes, proof that Sanders' sound and fury signifies nothing. You're welcome. nt ucrdem Jan 2016 #102

please watch his speech today Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #64

He saiut??d there was 'Illegal behavior" and no one went to jail. Who is he talking abo riversedge Jan 2016 #74

Of course not! He has spent his entire career... Walk away Jan 2016 #65

Franklin D. Roosevelt.... Yallow Jan 2016 #91

Why do you think Sanders should give CEO names? For what reson? INdemo Jan 2016 #73

I asked that. TM99 Jan 2016 #75

Link to wear you ask? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #84

Thanks for your efforts on this thread. You have effectively Vattel Jan 2016 #88

It is an uphill battle against the lies, TM99 Jan 2016 #96

The writer of this article is a right wing nut You should have just gone to Faux News and INdemo Jan 2016 #93

Jury results: MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #99

Just to set the record straight INdemo Jan 2016 #117

You know as Hillary supporters what you should have done and kept everything at a civil level INdemo Jan 2016 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #100

STUPID OP. Naming names would prejudice any future indictment. grasswire Jan 2016 #103

Couldn't or wouldn't? MuseRider Jan 2016 #104

Good. He's not on a first name basis with any of them! TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #105

I know, right? He also doesn't take their dirty fucking MONEY... unlike Hillary. AzDar Jan 2016 #110

So, you're accusing HRC of a crime. Spell it out. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #113

And what crime would that be? Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #120

Hillary can't name one CEO she would even investigate...nt artislife Jan 2016 #114

Flame bait OP AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #121

Ask him to commit SLANDER. Fucking brilliant, even from a Hillary supporter. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #122

I think this should be included here to remind us all where Hillary stands INdemo Jan 2016 #123

There were no investigations. Naming names could be considered defamation . Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #125

Bernie big talk redstateblues Jan 2016 #127

The President isn't supposed to influence the DOJ by naming people he wants in jail Babel_17 Jan 2016 #131

Wow, watched a repeat. This is devastating to R B Garr Jan 2016 #135

but.. butt.. butttt.. he's going to do that in his first year... Amimnoch Jan 2016 #138

Lol, exactly. That's about how much thought he's R B Garr Jan 2016 #151

Verrrrry interesting! BooScout Jan 2016 #136

of course not. Amimnoch Jan 2016 #137

I wasn't aware that he is a Prosecutor or Judge Lans Jan 2016 #139

Wall Street/corps is all he talks about. He attacks R B Garr Jan 2016 #150

Nope Lans Jan 2016 #152

Noticing that a candidate can't name names or R B Garr Jan 2016 #154

Like I said Lans Jan 2016 #155

I'm just observing what Bernie says. Don't put R B Garr Jan 2016 #157

nope Lans Jan 2016 #158

Nope, you are protecting Bernie who is protecting R B Garr Jan 2016 #159

Bybyour hit-and-run smear job, you demonstrate that you have NOTHING KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #144

I can't decide whether to rec or trash this thread. There is some good info in here to rec but, Hiraeth Jan 2016 #153