2016 Postmortem

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63. only at this exact moment in time, for the purposes of this thread..

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #52)

Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:37 PM

Jan 2016

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I wonder if all three candidates will have the courage to follow Obama on this [View all] pnwmom Jan 2016 OP

Hmmm. In my opinion, that's not likely. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #1

And why would he not? nc4bo Jan 2016 #2

He has said that guns are important to rural voters, and he has a mixed record. pnwmom Jan 2016 #4

Mixed record means different things to different people. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #27

He voted against the Brady bill and for the bill that repealed pnwmom Jan 2016 #30

a 2 second news google search indicates that all three have already supported him restorefreedom Jan 2016 #3

Indeed. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #6

well done! always good to diversify the sci fi characters. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #13

Speaking of sci-fi, I like to pretend ops like this are episodes of MST3K. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #18

eggggggscellent...that could help restorefreedom Jan 2016 #24

In that case, I have a question of THE UTMOST importance: DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #49

Well duh. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #51

Wrong answer, Newt Hitler. I like Mike! DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #54

Nooooooooooooooo! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #58

That's not what I asked. I asked if the candidates will urge voters pnwmom Jan 2016 #7

not going there restorefreedom Jan 2016 #20

That STILL isn't what Pwnmom asked ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #42

as i said further downthread restorefreedom Jan 2016 #45

There are plenty of Democrats that are pro-gun ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #62

in a d vs r race, the choice would appear to be obvious restorefreedom Jan 2016 #65

Not for those pledging to NOT vote, should the candidate of their choice not get the nomination. n/ 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #66

i honestly have not seen one post vowing to not vote restorefreedom Jan 2016 #68

Okay ... I doubt the veracity of your statement, as there have been far too many ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #70

individual people saying they won't vote? restorefreedom Jan 2016 #72

You mean like Hillary also favoured state's rights with regards to gun control?: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #32

Oopsie! CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #44

Those pesky facts again! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #53

They never learn. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #60

that was from her annie oakley period questionseverything Jan 2016 #76

Yep, back when she mocked Obama for his gun control stance. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #96

I find it cowardly? pangaia Jan 2016 #36

that too. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #48

I wonder how many Clinton supporters will continue to ignore jeff47 Jan 2016 #5

No shit. This OP had me scratching my head. It's like they ignore current reality and rewrite it Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #8

Bernie announced his support of Obama taking executive actions -- a different thing. pnwmom Jan 2016 #17

He didn't announce support for the idea of urging voters not to vote for pro-gun candidates. pnwmom Jan 2016 #10

Keep me meme alive!!!!!!! (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #14

!!! nc4bo Jan 2016 #19

Bwahahahah! CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #33

LOL! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #21

are you actually implying Hillary will not support pro-gun Democrats from Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #93

Perhaps you should consider what congress would look like if ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #43

Or, maybe Jeff47 has a modicum of intelligence and could plainly see that the OP is an attack. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #50

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #59

You really need to get your story straight. jeff47 Jan 2016 #75

My "story" is straight ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #80

K, I'll happily bring this up the next time you complain about people not backing jeff47 Jan 2016 #82

Please do! I have never complianed about "impure" candidates ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #84

One of the biggest problems in terms of guns. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #9

I think all three candidates agree with the Pres on this. n/t MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #11

yea! logic and reason still exist! restorefreedom Jan 2016 #22

When has Bernie ever urged voters not to vote for pro-gun candidates? pnwmom Jan 2016 #25

When has Hillary? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #41

shhhhhh...don't bring up logical and factual counter arguments....l restorefreedom Jan 2016 #46

And what the hell is a "pro-gun" candidate? Is Hillary "anti-gun"? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #52

only at this exact moment in time, for the purposes of this thread.. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #63

No way is Annie Oakley opposed to the 2nd amendment. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #64

i thought that was caribou barbie... restorefreedom Jan 2016 #67

Only one candidate is pro-death penalty as well. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #69

yeah, the dp thing really bothers me restorefreedom Jan 2016 #71

Bernie was the first to come out in support. But you already knew that. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #12

rejecting pro-gun candidates? dlwickham Jan 2016 #16

He said he'd support executive action. He didn't say he'd urge voters pnwmom Jan 2016 #23

since most progun candidates are rabid republicans, restorefreedom Jan 2016 #26

Not all. Bernie voted against the Brady bill, pnwmom Jan 2016 #28

That's a whole lot of half-truths packed into one post. jeff47 Jan 2016 #37

The liability laws applied to gun SELLERS, too, and they were overturned pnwmom Jan 2016 #56

And yet again you're wrong. jeff47 Jan 2016 #73

The gun dealer who sold the gun to James Holmes couldn't be sued for damages pnwmom Jan 2016 #77

And you're wrong yet again. jeff47 Jan 2016 #81

This does nothing to disprove what I said about the James Holmes case -- thanks to the pnwmom Jan 2016 #83

Yes, actually it does. jeff47 Jan 2016 #87

It was impossible for the parents of the victims of James Holmes, and everyone pnwmom Jan 2016 #88

No, it was quite possible - they did it. jeff47 Jan 2016 #89

Don't you even read your own links? pnwmom Jan 2016 #90

Apparently, you don't actually read the links. jeff47 Jan 2016 #91

It was DISMISSED. If there was a trial, I can't find it. All I can find is that it was dismissed, pnwmom Jan 2016 #92

It was dismissed for failing to show any negligence. jeff47 Jan 2016 #104

Outstanding research, jeff! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #94

Not really research. It's just actually paying attention to the issue jeff47 Jan 2016 #105

facts just do not matter for some Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #85

That is completely false. Vattel Jan 2016 #97

Still completely false. Vattel Jan 2016 #98

Link please. I provided some and you haven't. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #99

It is all in the judge's order of dismissal. Vattel Jan 2016 #100

Thank you for the document. You failed to read it. Please see pages 6 - 10, pnwmom Jan 2016 #101

I am trying to inform you of the facts here. You should be less careless Vattel Jan 2016 #102

And he spent 5 pages going over the PLCAA because it, all by itself, pnwmom Jan 2016 #103

Not quite. PLCAA all by itself could not have formed the basis for the dismissal Vattel Jan 2016 #106

yes, yes. pangaia Jan 2016 #40

he just said he will continue what obama does restorefreedom Jan 2016 #47

I get your nuance on this, so I think the question is fair. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #29

I agree. pnwmom Jan 2016 #31

Hillary and Obama also noted the difference between rural and urban gun use: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #34

I don't know about you, but to me it almost seems like Hillary and Bernie Vattel Jan 2016 #79

They're not. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #95

FAIL! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #15

Why don't you just come out and say what you REALLY mean? pangaia Jan 2016 #35

Could you provide links to Clinton and O'Malley saying they will urge voters jeff47 Jan 2016 #38

It would be consistent with their past gun positions and inconsistent with Bernie's. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #57

So no, you don't actually have any quotes, you just wanted to bash Sanders again. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #74

so no quotes Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #86

It's a good and fair question. lovemydog Jan 2016 #39

Obama doesn't want to take guns away from rural voters. So I see no conflict. Vattel Jan 2016 #55

Where does Annie stand on this? Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #61

Annie says it's a hard knock life. lovemydog Jan 2016 #78