2016 Postmortem

tech3149

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35. I guess you never really listened to the core message

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:00 AM

Jan 2016

There is no doubt in my mind after listening to him for more than a decade that he has a better understanding of the problems and obstacles to be overcome to address them.
I can't read his mind but I know how long and hard he thought about taking on the challenge. I am absolutely sure that he knew he would be fighting challenges from every direction of the compass.
You don't take that sort of challenge for level of self aggrandizement.
This campaign is all about building a movement to bring government back into the control of the people. Wasn't that what was supposed to happen when Obama was first elected?

Remember that graphic after he was elected "relax, I got this"? Where was the integration of those that got him elected into the party structure?
How about Mayor 1% calling progressives "fucking retarded"?
The reason Sanders is running as a Democrat is not just because there is no choice but that by sheer force of will or acceptance of inevitability, the party will be transformed or fail.
The DLC/Third Way/corporate whores will have to decide.

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What Hillary Supporters Know but Are Having Difficulty Accepting... [View all] berni_mccoy Jan 2016 OP

30% is momentum? leftofcool Jan 2016 #1

Get real. Any dem that runs will beat whoever emerges from the clown car brush Jan 2016 #2

So you can be counted on to Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #4

Cut the BS. brush Jan 2016 #10

Glad to hear it Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #11

No. Hillary is on course to lose Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and Colorado. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #21

We're talking about the general not the primaries brush Jan 2016 #24

No, I think you are Dreaming.... andrewv1 Jan 2016 #37

You're not fooling anyone with that crappola brush Jan 2016 #50

So, you have to have a certain number of posts on DU andrewv1 Jan 2016 #61

This site to help get dem nominees elected brush Jan 2016 #62

First of all, Sanders is the only one who can win in the GE andrewv1 Jan 2016 #66

I disagree. The repug party is no longer able to win the presidency brush Jan 2016 #68

Not if you put Hillary as your Nominee.... andrewv1 Jan 2016 #75

Technically Bernie is not dem, but either of them will beat the repug. brush Jan 2016 #81

Technically, he is. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #83

He's a socialist , an independent whose was allowed to run in the dem primaries brush Jan 2016 #84

No, the question should be which one represents the principles that are aligned with Democrats? andrewv1 Jan 2016 #86

It's "democratic socialist", and he is a member of the democratic party since he registered as such JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #87

Ok, he recently registered as a Democrat but he's long been known as a "self-described" socialist. brush Jan 2016 #88

No sir, you are just plain WRONG. 99Forever Jan 2016 #89

You're the one that apparently doesn't know squat brush Jan 2016 #91

Like this Guardian paper from the 2006 Senatorial election? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #93

There is none so blind as he that simply refuses to see. 99Forever Jan 2016 #94

Projection! Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #76

No, I think you're dreaming. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #96

I'm not dreaming at all that wingers pay people to troll here to suppress votes . . . brush Jan 2016 #97

Obviously all of this talk comes from recent polling showing Sanders would do better than Clinton. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #99

I stated that I will be voting for Sanders in the primary brush Jan 2016 #101

Not True! There is Vast extreme Animosity Among Voters Regarding The Clintonss CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #59

I think you're wrong brush Jan 2016 #63

Good. Then we don't have to vote for the DINO Doctor_J Jan 2016 #64

That's the attitude that got us 8 years of Dubya. We need to nominate a strong candidate. reformist2 Jan 2016 #95

We have two brush Jan 2016 #98

And what they just can't accept ... earthside Jan 2016 #3

We're feeling it here in Oklahoma madokie Jan 2016 #6

+1. When Hillary's name comes up, I hear a lot of people talk about nose-holding. winter is coming Jan 2016 #8

Bernie's message is that he will tell the top 1 percent they can't have it all Samantha Jan 2016 #47

I'm loving listening to some of them madokie Jan 2016 #5

You're darned right it is! PatrickforO Jan 2016 #51

Excuse me while I "break for Bernie". oasis Jan 2016 #7

Unnnnnn, Starting to see Clinton as not as left but way more rounded a leader as Sanders... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #9

Unicorns tazkcmo Jan 2016 #13

“Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly.” Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #17

It's amazing. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #20

I can just envision their version of JFK's speech Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #23

Wow. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #30

One in particular tells me often how he can afford a Republican president . . . can I? He says this Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #77

Ah, no. okasha Jan 2016 #41

That "hard-headed realist" became a dreamer Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #43

So was LBJ. okasha Jan 2016 #44

No, the comparison is Bobby Kennedy Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #46

Thanks, but I don't need Moyers to tell me about Bobby. okasha Jan 2016 #48

If you supported him in 1968, Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #49

If you were around in 1968, okasha Jan 2016 #70

So which of Kennedy's goals I mentioned were actually achieved? Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #85

Start by asking RFK's assassin. and Nixon voters and Reagan voters and Bush voters emulatorloo Jan 2016 #102

With a unicorn congress, something Sanders and the complacent left leave out of their uponit7771 Jan 2016 #28

One reason our Congress is so conservative is that the Third Way Democrats JDPriestly Jan 2016 #57

Given that the GOP is reflexively opposed to working with a Democratic President, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #27

She doesn't, that's why I said she's not saying unicorns will pop up and vote for anything idealogic uponit7771 Jan 2016 #29

so what will she accomplish that Sanders won't? Doctor_J Jan 2016 #40

I guess you never really listened to the core message tech3149 Jan 2016 #35

when the hillarians say, "well rounded leadership", they really mean Doctor_J Jan 2016 #39

I want to take exception to the second sentence of your post that begins, "He'll compromise..." PatrickforO Jan 2016 #53

Anyone whose argument involves "unicorns" isn't to be taken seriously. senz Jan 2016 #54

I think your bubble world gets bigger every time you post. riversedge Jan 2016 #12

On her way to make a quarter million bucks an hour from speaking to bankers. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #14

Zinger! Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #26

Ya'll have the pictures, just not the principles. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #78

You guys are like climate change deniers. LexVegas Jan 2016 #15

The deniers are RIGHT? immoderate Jan 2016 #73

What's the matter Berni? MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #16

Numbers don't count if you only BELIEVE! randome Jan 2016 #67

Explain to me how Sanders wins the general YoungDemCA Jan 2016 #18

Because he's already beating the pants off every Republican in those Fawke Em Jan 2016 #22

Open your eyes. We've been explaining this for months. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #79

Sanders doesn't have to win to help Hillary lose. ucrdem Jan 2016 #19

No he can't. OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #25

Yeah, whatever.......... Beacool Jan 2016 #31

Okay - I'll accept your challenge... brooklynite Jan 2016 #32

Here you go Kalidurga Jan 2016 #36

Pretty colors. okasha Jan 2016 #42

The unicorn map redstateblues Jan 2016 #45

They're just making fun of the map you displayed. senz Jan 2016 #52

I wish that map was bigger. Major Hogwash Jan 2016 #56

You're saying Sanders will win Clinton's home State of NY... brooklynite Jan 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #80

If she loses Iowa and New Hampshire the media is going to be full of: ieoeja Jan 2016 #69

Oh brother ... talk about "difficulty accepting" Lil Missy Jan 2016 #33

The media bent is denying Clinton PATRICK Jan 2016 #34

Any time honest workers, everyday people start asking for OUR tax dollars PatrickforO Jan 2016 #55

even if she somehow wins the ge, the country is well and truly screwed Doctor_J Jan 2016 #38

K&R for truth. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #58

Here are some warnings from Nate Silver about polls Gothmog Jan 2016 #65

Will the revolution be televised? It hasn't been so far. Bernie hasn't got the attention he thereismore Jan 2016 #71

At some time in the near future (maybe even in this election) nolabels Jan 2016 #100

It's true - TV is losing its dominance in the information age. Maybe we don't thereismore Jan 2016 #104

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #72

I don't know what to say ..... ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #74

Bill Clinton says something I believe, though I am not sure if he totally does: merrily Jan 2016 #82

Don't get a nose bleed way up there looking down on the rest of us. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #90

If only that were true. DanTex Jan 2016 #92

Observe the transition Proserpina Jan 2016 #103