2016 Postmortem

Art_from_Ark

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43. That "hard-headed realist" became a dreamer

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:56 AM

Jan 2016

A dreamer of a better life:

"And let's dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people. "

"Few will have the greatness to bend history, but each of us can work to change a small portion of the events, and then the total — all of these acts — will be written in the history of this generation."

"First, is the danger of futility: the belief there is nothing one man or one woman can do against the enormous array of the world's ills — against misery, against ignorance, or injustice and violence. Yet many of the world's great movements, of thought and action, have flowed from the work of a single man."

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What Hillary Supporters Know but Are Having Difficulty Accepting... [View all] berni_mccoy Jan 2016 OP

30% is momentum? leftofcool Jan 2016 #1

Get real. Any dem that runs will beat whoever emerges from the clown car brush Jan 2016 #2

So you can be counted on to Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #4

Cut the BS. brush Jan 2016 #10

Glad to hear it Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #11

No. Hillary is on course to lose Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and Colorado. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #21

We're talking about the general not the primaries brush Jan 2016 #24

No, I think you are Dreaming.... andrewv1 Jan 2016 #37

You're not fooling anyone with that crappola brush Jan 2016 #50

So, you have to have a certain number of posts on DU andrewv1 Jan 2016 #61

This site to help get dem nominees elected brush Jan 2016 #62

First of all, Sanders is the only one who can win in the GE andrewv1 Jan 2016 #66

I disagree. The repug party is no longer able to win the presidency brush Jan 2016 #68

Not if you put Hillary as your Nominee.... andrewv1 Jan 2016 #75

Technically Bernie is not dem, but either of them will beat the repug. brush Jan 2016 #81

Technically, he is. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #83

He's a socialist , an independent whose was allowed to run in the dem primaries brush Jan 2016 #84

No, the question should be which one represents the principles that are aligned with Democrats? andrewv1 Jan 2016 #86

It's "democratic socialist", and he is a member of the democratic party since he registered as such JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #87

Ok, he recently registered as a Democrat but he's long been known as a "self-described" socialist. brush Jan 2016 #88

No sir, you are just plain WRONG. 99Forever Jan 2016 #89

You're the one that apparently doesn't know squat brush Jan 2016 #91

Like this Guardian paper from the 2006 Senatorial election? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #93

There is none so blind as he that simply refuses to see. 99Forever Jan 2016 #94

Projection! Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #76

No, I think you're dreaming. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #96

I'm not dreaming at all that wingers pay people to troll here to suppress votes . . . brush Jan 2016 #97

Obviously all of this talk comes from recent polling showing Sanders would do better than Clinton. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #99

I stated that I will be voting for Sanders in the primary brush Jan 2016 #101

Not True! There is Vast extreme Animosity Among Voters Regarding The Clintonss CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #59

I think you're wrong brush Jan 2016 #63

Good. Then we don't have to vote for the DINO Doctor_J Jan 2016 #64

That's the attitude that got us 8 years of Dubya. We need to nominate a strong candidate. reformist2 Jan 2016 #95

We have two brush Jan 2016 #98

And what they just can't accept ... earthside Jan 2016 #3

We're feeling it here in Oklahoma madokie Jan 2016 #6

+1. When Hillary's name comes up, I hear a lot of people talk about nose-holding. winter is coming Jan 2016 #8

Bernie's message is that he will tell the top 1 percent they can't have it all Samantha Jan 2016 #47

I'm loving listening to some of them madokie Jan 2016 #5

You're darned right it is! PatrickforO Jan 2016 #51

Excuse me while I "break for Bernie". oasis Jan 2016 #7

Unnnnnn, Starting to see Clinton as not as left but way more rounded a leader as Sanders... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #9

Unicorns tazkcmo Jan 2016 #13

“Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly.” Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #17

It's amazing. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #20

I can just envision their version of JFK's speech Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #23

Wow. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #30

One in particular tells me often how he can afford a Republican president . . . can I? He says this Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #77

Ah, no. okasha Jan 2016 #41

That "hard-headed realist" became a dreamer Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #43

So was LBJ. okasha Jan 2016 #44

No, the comparison is Bobby Kennedy Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #46

Thanks, but I don't need Moyers to tell me about Bobby. okasha Jan 2016 #48

If you supported him in 1968, Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #49

If you were around in 1968, okasha Jan 2016 #70

So which of Kennedy's goals I mentioned were actually achieved? Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #85

Start by asking RFK's assassin. and Nixon voters and Reagan voters and Bush voters emulatorloo Jan 2016 #102

With a unicorn congress, something Sanders and the complacent left leave out of their uponit7771 Jan 2016 #28

One reason our Congress is so conservative is that the Third Way Democrats JDPriestly Jan 2016 #57

Given that the GOP is reflexively opposed to working with a Democratic President, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #27

She doesn't, that's why I said she's not saying unicorns will pop up and vote for anything idealogic uponit7771 Jan 2016 #29

so what will she accomplish that Sanders won't? Doctor_J Jan 2016 #40

I guess you never really listened to the core message tech3149 Jan 2016 #35

when the hillarians say, "well rounded leadership", they really mean Doctor_J Jan 2016 #39

I want to take exception to the second sentence of your post that begins, "He'll compromise..." PatrickforO Jan 2016 #53

Anyone whose argument involves "unicorns" isn't to be taken seriously. senz Jan 2016 #54

I think your bubble world gets bigger every time you post. riversedge Jan 2016 #12

On her way to make a quarter million bucks an hour from speaking to bankers. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #14

Zinger! Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #26

Ya'll have the pictures, just not the principles. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #78

You guys are like climate change deniers. LexVegas Jan 2016 #15

The deniers are RIGHT? immoderate Jan 2016 #73

What's the matter Berni? MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #16

Numbers don't count if you only BELIEVE! randome Jan 2016 #67

Explain to me how Sanders wins the general YoungDemCA Jan 2016 #18

Because he's already beating the pants off every Republican in those Fawke Em Jan 2016 #22

Open your eyes. We've been explaining this for months. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #79

Sanders doesn't have to win to help Hillary lose. ucrdem Jan 2016 #19

No he can't. OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #25

Yeah, whatever.......... Beacool Jan 2016 #31

Okay - I'll accept your challenge... brooklynite Jan 2016 #32

Here you go Kalidurga Jan 2016 #36

Pretty colors. okasha Jan 2016 #42

The unicorn map redstateblues Jan 2016 #45

They're just making fun of the map you displayed. senz Jan 2016 #52

I wish that map was bigger. Major Hogwash Jan 2016 #56

You're saying Sanders will win Clinton's home State of NY... brooklynite Jan 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #80

If she loses Iowa and New Hampshire the media is going to be full of: ieoeja Jan 2016 #69

Oh brother ... talk about "difficulty accepting" Lil Missy Jan 2016 #33

The media bent is denying Clinton PATRICK Jan 2016 #34

Any time honest workers, everyday people start asking for OUR tax dollars PatrickforO Jan 2016 #55

even if she somehow wins the ge, the country is well and truly screwed Doctor_J Jan 2016 #38

K&R for truth. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #58

Here are some warnings from Nate Silver about polls Gothmog Jan 2016 #65

Will the revolution be televised? It hasn't been so far. Bernie hasn't got the attention he thereismore Jan 2016 #71

At some time in the near future (maybe even in this election) nolabels Jan 2016 #100

It's true - TV is losing its dominance in the information age. Maybe we don't thereismore Jan 2016 #104

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #72

I don't know what to say ..... ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #74

Bill Clinton says something I believe, though I am not sure if he totally does: merrily Jan 2016 #82

Don't get a nose bleed way up there looking down on the rest of us. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #90

If only that were true. DanTex Jan 2016 #92

Observe the transition Proserpina Jan 2016 #103