2016 Postmortem

NurseJackie

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83. Unfortunately for the other candidates, they're not Obama.

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:52 AM

Jan 2016

In 2016, Hillary is the best choice and the most qualified. The debates have clearly indicated that. She's demonstrated that she knows her "stuff" (and other candidates have floundered, hesitated, blustered, deflected, changed the subject and pivoted to tried-and-true "stump speeches" about issues that they're more comfortable with.)

And, Obama had almost zero experience, which shows that it really is overrated when it comes to being President.

Then based on that criteria, you'll have little difficulty in selecting a candidate that best matches the things that are most important to you, or the things that are unimportant to you. It appears that your choice is easy. (And so is mine.)

Personally, I trust Hillary more than any other candidate. She's getting my votes.

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Bernie Sanders Literally Only Cares About Wealth Inequality [View all] NCTraveler Jan 2016 OP

Smear, spin, twist. Repeat. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #1

I agree this has been discussed here. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #14

Bernie has proven he cares about institutional racism as much as, if not more than HRC. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #130

+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #135

Bernie Sanders at least stands for something other than more of the same mhatrw Jan 2016 #141

. Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #39

He has said that the most important issue for him is Publicly Funded Elections, getting the Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #46

He's also said that "Climate Change is the single greatest threat facing our planet" Matariki Jan 2016 #144

Geez Betty Karlson, how dare you attempt to make it personal. Bubzer Jan 2016 #63

Today's bit of satire was wonderful - many thanks to LOL! eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #102

Yep. Even the maggots are done with that one. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #126

There's more to being president of the US than that ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #2

The "global leadership position" mindset nyabingi Jan 2016 #44

That's not what I said. But what I *do* believe is ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #57

Bull crap tazkcmo Jan 2016 #69

I trust Hillary more than any other candidate. She's more qualified than any other candidate. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #78

Wow. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #84

I trust Hillary more than any other candidate. She's got my votes. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #90

"hate" tazkcmo Jan 2016 #93

Look around, it's pretty obvious. Your meaning and intent was clear to me. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #97

Using that logic, Trump must be the best floriduck Jan 2016 #105

You're trying too hard. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #109

It's kind of like high school where the shallow kids seemed to like kids just for being popular... cascadiance Jan 2016 #121

Believe me, I'm not trying to pick a fight or... tex-wyo-dem Jan 2016 #110

Well ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #112

Libya's 'No-Fly Zone' was led by France not Hillary BlueStateLib Jan 2016 #113

Hillary does indeed have experience on the international nyabingi Jan 2016 #98

Yes, voters are important. It appears to me that Hillary has prohibitively more support from them... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #100

Yep, people share her opinions angrychair Jan 2016 #104

So, you should vote based on the things that are most important to you. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #106

I get you are trying to stick to your point angrychair Jan 2016 #114

Thank you for your response. I do not see the world the same way that you do. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #120

+1! tecelote Jan 2016 #151

Who else better to run a global Kleptocracy Fuddnik Jan 2016 #53

You just described Dick Cheney. Dawgs Jan 2016 #54

I disagree with you. And ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #60

Then why not tell us about her good ideas. Dawgs Jan 2016 #66

Unfortunately for the other candidates, they're not Obama. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #83

I'm sorry but I don't understand how any sane person can trust Hillary. Dawgs Jan 2016 #94

Oh, how charming. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #101

. Perogie Jan 2016 #85

I'm wide awake and raring-to-go! :-) NurseJackie Jan 2016 #103

You're doing great so far. Keep it up. oasis Jan 2016 #125

"global leadership" is a right-wing concept. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #134

It's a neocon concept. Sad to see Democrats pushing it. senz Jan 2016 #138

Then why is he on the record being pro gay rights since the 70's? Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #3

Really? He ONLY cares about money? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #4

What some/many/most?of these 'folks' also do not understand pangaia Jan 2016 #27

Must be their privilege. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #28

Yes they are. That's why I'm voting for Hillary. Laser102 Jan 2016 #89

When has Hillary ever gone without anything? Kentonio Jan 2016 #153

The most basic problem we face is the loss of our democratic powers or Constitutional powers. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #45

You know how Jews are. It's all about the money for them. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #62

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #65

Great Catch... Wow !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #77

True...and Bernie doesn't understand the current cause of wealth inequality! Sancho Jan 2016 #5

Very well stated. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #16

Yeah, the intrepid chervilant Jan 2016 #41

I see you are not familiar with her plan to regulate Wall Street. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #47

Wrong, but nice try. n/t chervilant Jan 2016 #49

I am right, she has the better plan to regulate so much Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #55

... chervilant Jan 2016 #124

Bernie is responsible for the financial crises in 2008? Have you been taking notes from lewbely3? Bubzer Jan 2016 #71

Listening to Thom Hartmann's Brunch With Bernie segment Ilsa Jan 2016 #35

I've listened to Bernie on Thom Hartmann for many years... Sancho Jan 2016 #48

You're staring so hard at the trees you've convinced yourself there is no forest. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #72

I'm just reading and listening to the experts that I respect... Sancho Jan 2016 #95

Then Hillary should make him the head of the Federal Reserve baldguy Jan 2016 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #73

Hatred like that will make you crazy. baldguy Jan 2016 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #80

Yes, and Clinton's only interest is war. It is so easy to lie, isn't it? Vattel Jan 2016 #7

Or you could say since all she does is collect millions for speeches she only cares about money too. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #9

Good point, I will say that her love of war is part of her plan to make more money for herself. Vattel Jan 2016 #11

I think you're on to something, Vattel. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #12

You should have seen the hell I caught in another thread for twisting shit notadmblnd Jan 2016 #31

Oh I believe it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #32

I really cheered when Bernie laid the heavy lumber on Alan Greenspan about his reckless policies.. Akamai Jan 2016 #86

And protecting guns and the gun industry. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #8

He does seem to have tunnel vision at times. Alfresco Jan 2016 #10

That's all HRH cares about as well. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #13

Really? democrank Jan 2016 #15

Bernie fighting for veterans: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #17

You can interview me. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #76

... Nyan Jan 2016 #88

Hope you`re doing better, tazkcmo. democrank Jan 2016 #119

Thank you for your kind words. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #129

If not for all the other things he has done. mmonk Jan 2016 #18

When he is on the talk shows every question he floats back to Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #19

maybe because income inequality is at the root of so many of our problems! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #21

Maybe because Sanders is limited to few issues. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #29

So right. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #79

well, it's probably the single most important issue that he can address as a president Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #20

ONLY. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #22

was my reaction too tk2kewl Jan 2016 #38

Wealth Inequality is at the root of any number of problems facing the USA... MattSh Jan 2016 #23

You guys could at least display some creativity with these attacks. marmar Jan 2016 #24

K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #25

And gay rights. And veterans. And family leave. And climate change. And healthcare. And ... Scuba Jan 2016 #26

How fabulously unobservant. AllyCat Jan 2016 #30

Sanders truly is one dimensional Gman Jan 2016 #33

Bernie has never been weak on race relations. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #133

False. And Hillary's vaunted experience in foreign policy is one of the best reasons not cali Jan 2016 #147

Big False. Hilary's foreign policy experience is one of the best reasons Gman Jan 2016 #149

"Literally" tk2kewl Jan 2016 #34

Ah, again with this trope that a Jewish son of genocide survivors only cares about money. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #36

Since the op was lecturing people on verbiage yesterday you think she'd realize how that sounds. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #42

Remember it is sexist to say 'shouting' but not antisemitic to say Bernie only cares about money. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #58

It's sexist to call Hillary a "chicken" too. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #59

This is not about religion. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #67

It's about money. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #81

And women's groups, unions, civil rights groups, etc. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #82

What is it about? Ken Burch Jan 2016 #132

I'm not saying it is about his religion but about your bias and underlying prejudices. Got that? Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #156

I got it. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #157

Gosh...well thats it then. I guess we better all go run to Hillary Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #37

Is this the new-old talking point being recycled due to lack of valid criticism of Bernie? U of M Dem Jan 2016 #40

Wrong. Having been to town meetings of his over the years cali Jan 2016 #43

The attempt to ridicule Sen Sanders for wanting to reverse the great rhett o rick Jan 2016 #50

Of the two candidates only one has expended energies to amass great wealth. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #51

As Warren Buffet said there is a class war and his class won Cary Jan 2016 #52

Right, because that's all that Jewish men care about? Dawgs Jan 2016 #56

BOOM! Got right to it! Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #64

This Gutman? Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #61

He certainly has richie rich quivering like a chihuahua nerve ball. Who gives a crap what stupid lonestarnot Jan 2016 #68

From this thread we'll see if some people are consistent. Jim Lane Jan 2016 #70

If you're waiting for consistency from Clinton supporters on DU jeff47 Jan 2016 #92

Most people vote their wallets. Hiraeth Jan 2016 #74

This board is no place for anti-Semitic smears shawn703 Jan 2016 #87

I agree with that sentiment. (I must have overlooked the anti-Semitic smear. Can you point it out?) NurseJackie Jan 2016 #91

Need an umbrella for the torrent of bullshit raining down today Doctor_J Jan 2016 #96

And hip waders cause the shit's getting deep Autumn Jan 2016 #107

he has a long record of fighting for a variety of causes restorefreedom Jan 2016 #99

His only friend Senator Jim Inhofe R. 81yrs old.... Historic NY Jan 2016 #108

It only seems that way because he's the only candidate who cares at all. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #111

I came to that conclusion when I first learned of his record on Gun Control... Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #115

Yes, he got a D- score from the NRA. senz Jan 2016 #136

The NRA is shit. He voted against the Brady Bill and to immunize Gun manufacturers from law suites. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #145

FALSE. He said waiting periods should be set at the state level. senz Jan 2016 #146

His votes are a matter of pubic record. So your statement on his votes is FALSE! Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #148

Yes, his votes are a matter of public record. And if you'd look at them senz Jan 2016 #150

I told the truth about Sandrsl's stand on gun control. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #152

Wealth inequality does trickledown damage. nt valerief Jan 2016 #116

Wealth inequality Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #117

Sanders has not expanded his base of supporters Gothmog Jan 2016 #118

Not true, NCTraveler, not true. senz Jan 2016 #122

Sanders said the biggest national security threat is CLIMATE CHANGE. senz Jan 2016 #123

I have not gotten the impression that facts are all that important to some. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #128

Nonsense Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #127

You say that like it would be a bad thing if it was true. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #131

But it's not true, and I believe the OP knows that. senz Jan 2016 #137

anyone who has listened to Bernie or has read the many many posts about Bernie's advocacy positions Kalidurga Jan 2016 #139

Indeed, with emphasis on "deliberately." senz Jan 2016 #140

I hope they have other ways to promote their candidate Kalidurga Jan 2016 #142

Sandra Bland's mother says Differently JI7 Jan 2016 #143

Bernie is the definition of class. Eom Karma13612 Jan 2016 #155

and this is a problem because..? hedgehog Jan 2016 #154

All Road Back To Rome.... Billsmile Feb 2016 #158