2016 Postmortem

randys1

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102. Either Hillary is on record, in a book I assume, disavowing her support for Goldwater

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:12 PM

Jan 2016

and chalking it up to youth or a mistake, or there is no such statement.

Since you accuse her of being pro Goldwater and anti civil rights, I assume you know?

I actually dont, so this is your chance to find out, post it, then either gloat in your victory or retract your comments as insincere.

I really would like to see that you cant find her talking about this, maybe you can, I dont actually know.

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Jan. 7, 2008: The Day Hillary Clinton Lost the Black Vote - TheRoot [View all] WillyT Jan 2016 OP

Sheesh...I had forgotten about that. Punkingal Jan 2016 #1

I Had Too... WillyT Jan 2016 #2

This is more bullsh_t. I am AA and that had nothing to do with me . . . brush Jan 2016 #25

Post #12... WillyT Jan 2016 #33

It had nothing to do with the "assassination" remark you claimed though brush Jan 2016 #34

Take It Up With Henry Louis Gate... The Founder Of 'The Root'... Post #17 WillyT Jan 2016 #35

Obsession? brush Jan 2016 #36

G'Night !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #37

Lecturing and talking down to you seems to me. randys1 Jan 2016 #101

OP keeps digging that hole bigger and wider with AA's Sheepshank Jan 2016 #109

Well ... I may be mistaken ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #127

well, I happen to this that is a failing endeavor too n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #131

I think it is fairly successful based on the all important metric ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #133

ahhh, I forgot about the clicks n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #134

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #110

Melanin envy....love it!!! :) :) n't Sheepshank Jan 2016 #130

That was a new low for the Clintons. I remember that dog whistle, and boy it was ugly. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #96

Oh, come on. Even you know that it is absurd to say that Hillary Clinton lost the black vote. Squinch Jan 2016 #3

Like I Said... She Definitely Lost Ted Kennedy And South Carolina WillyT Jan 2016 #5

I don't remember Ted Kennedy being black. But that could just be me. Squinch Jan 2016 #6

No... But His Two Brothers Were Assassinated, As Was Dr. King... WillyT Jan 2016 #8

None of which equals Hillary losing the black vote. Squinch Jan 2016 #9

Oh Really ??? - From 2008... 'How Hillary Clinton Botched The Black Vote' - Salon WillyT Jan 2016 #12

I agree. I've seen this meme several times in the past few days. Not true. Laser102 Jan 2016 #13

Anything ??? WillyT Jan 2016 #32

Other than to say that you've jumped the shark so often that "WillyT" means "Who is that annoying Squinch Jan 2016 #44

I Feel Ya, Man... WillyT Jan 2016 #46

Well... WillyT Jan 2016 #17

So you're saying that she never had it? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #68

Thank You... WillyT Jan 2016 #76

Fist bump a troll? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #111

Uh huh. Squinch Jan 2016 #136

I guess that was another case where she was not conscious of the situations during that era... cascadiance Jan 2016 #4

Either Hillary is on record, in a book I assume, disavowing her support for Goldwater randys1 Jan 2016 #102

OK, I get it... She wasn't capable of rational thought when she got admitted to college then... cascadiance Jan 2016 #113

Too bad for your guy it not 2008 and he's not Barack Obama...nt comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #7

Too bad for you that she is still hillary clinton. nt artislife Jan 2016 #15

I really like and admire Hillary, I anticipate her presidency with comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #16

The revolution never came, comrade. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #21

My user name is a private joke, I am not a revolutionary by any comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #31

Interesting that you should say that about gaining respect for her back in 93/94... PatrickforO Jan 2016 #79

Hell Yeah!!! artislife Jan 2016 #84

Thanks! You know, I hope you feel better. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #85

All I got from your post is that Bernie and supporters are not content with incremental... Sheepshank Jan 2016 #114

There's a difference between incremental change and going in the wrong direction. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #143

lol (nt) Babel_17 Jan 2016 #117

She kind of did the same thing with the azmom Jan 2016 #10

Yep... WillyT Jan 2016 #11

the one and only X candidate! MisterP Jan 2016 #57

HOLY SHIT !!! - How Did I Miss THAT !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #58

and THEN she gave 'em the boot MisterP Jan 2016 #64

And... Was It Posted In V & M ??? And... Was It Posted ANYWHERE HERE ??? WillyT Jan 2016 #65

the main part of the event was posted as proof that she was just a further supporter of Xs MisterP Jan 2016 #66

Thanks... WillyT Jan 2016 #67

but she drinks white tears/will keep thugs out of your suburb/is completely homophile/supports MisterP Jan 2016 #69

Isn't she lovely? nc4bo Jan 2016 #91

I remember something about assassination talk at the beginning of Bernie's candidacy. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #14

Hillary lost the Kennedys as well, on 1/28/08 Ted and Carolyn Kennedy also endorsed Senator Obama Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #18

And Thank YOU, For That !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #19

I just couldn't watch it all at once...so many memories back to JFK...and the days of libdem4life Jan 2016 #29

For You... By Earth, Wind & Fire: WillyT Jan 2016 #38

Thank you. libdem4life Jan 2016 #142

Carolyn Kennedy can change her mind....looks like for Clinton in 2016 Sheepshank Jan 2016 #116

I have to be careful here because people will jump on me... DemocraticWing Jan 2016 #20

Thank You For That... I Think She's A Decent Person Too... But... WillyT Jan 2016 #23

I agree that HRC is not a racist. winter is coming Jan 2016 #24

that is what makes her behavior so much worse....when non-racists use racism as a tool virtualobserver Jan 2016 #70

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it LiberalElite Jan 2016 #45

I live in KY as well. blackspade Jan 2016 #94

Obama abandoning the rural vote during second primary phase was my biggest disappointment in 2008. ieoeja Jan 2016 #97

There were some rather ugly dog whistles in that campaign. TDale313 Jan 2016 #26

More to do with AA Obama being a viable candidate and less to do with oasis Jan 2016 #27

Post #12... WillyT Jan 2016 #28

Disagree. Hillary's "missteps" turned off people who may otherwise have voted for her. merrily Jan 2016 #82

The lack of a consistent vision is a reason to hesitate and reflect. Bernie has not had that libdem4life Jan 2016 #30

Please just fucking stop, Wiily T. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #39

This Was Posted Today By 'The Root'... An AA Magazine/Website... See Posts #12 & #17... WillyT Jan 2016 #40

+1000 YoungDemCA Jan 2016 #42

You Are EXACTLY Right... It Was Embarrassing & Nauseating... WillyT Jan 2016 #43

Would you just stop "reminding" Black people of what we have never forgotten? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #47

So... Why Are You Supporting Her Now ??? - I'm In Earnest !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #52

I don't support her; but, of the Black folks that I know that do ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #88

Why did women support Obama letting go his sexism in his campaign? I, being a consistent supporter seabeyond Jan 2016 #138

Plus... It's Actual History... We Should Shut Up About It ??? WillyT Jan 2016 #53

I didn't know the OP was a message JUST for black people. retrowire Jan 2016 #56

THIS Time, Yes, Hillary... Do NOT Want To Be Reminded Of LAST Time... WillyT Jan 2016 #59

You know, I didn't get that "victim complex" thing from 1StrongBlackMan's post at all. blue neen Jan 2016 #81

Well the victim complex observation comes from the retrowire Jan 2016 #120

Victim complex? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #89

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #92

Mmhmm, don't care. retrowire Jan 2016 #124

Well, the article wasn't directed exclusively at black people. retrowire Jan 2016 #121

That's some twisted "logic" there ... but, okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #125

Well is the article targeted at the black race exclusively retrowire Jan 2016 #126

Nothing about my friend, IStrongBlackBlackMan, suggests he thinks he's a victim. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #93

Mmhmm, sure. retrowire Jan 2016 #123

For the win! wildeyed Jan 2016 #106

Victim of Stockholm Syndrome perhaps? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #108

You are projecting again. Squinch Jan 2016 #137

Really? retrowire Jan 2016 #141

These threads are getting really sad Gothmog Jan 2016 #104

Well, I feel better for getting that out there :) Sheepshank Jan 2016 #107

I was under the impression it was now January 2016 YoungDemCA Jan 2016 #41

Remind us all of what share of the African American vote Clinton is getting... brooklynite Jan 2016 #48

"Killer Mike notwithstanding..." MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #62

Very interesting read... SoapBox Jan 2016 #49

Because white folks think Black folks need to reminded? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #50

It's History... It's From An AA Website/Magazine... It's The Anniversary Of That Misstep... WillyT Jan 2016 #71

she has a huge lead with black voters right now JI7 Jan 2016 #72

That's Great... Good For Her... Yet... WillyT Jan 2016 #75

Yet this was on the same website, the same day, and you didn't find it interesting Tanuki Jan 2016 #86

Like I said ... some DUers don't find anything Black of any interest ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #90

I am glad you said "some" otherwise that's just nuts. litlbilly Jan 2016 #139

I could have been more specific; but, I didn't want the hide. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #140

Ohhhh thanks for that link! tammywammy Jan 2016 #128

I'm not AA, but I find these types of articles manipulative and condescending. Beacool Jan 2016 #99

Yes. And I find the use of them by a segment of DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #103

Exactly. Beacool Jan 2016 #105

I read the article before I saw it here. wildeyed Jan 2016 #112

Obama is not running for a third term. Beacool Jan 2016 #51

HRC has significant support in the AA community. underthematrix Jan 2016 #78

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I would bet that if there was a poll of AA DU members, more would support Hillary than Sanders. Beacool Jan 2016 #98

Lol! zappaman Jan 2016 #54

Looks like she's doing very well now. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2016 #55

I always felt that the whole assassination thing in 2008 was bullshit. Vattel Jan 2016 #60

Thanks for sharing the link to an important point of view Babel_17 Jan 2016 #61

:hattip: WillyT Jan 2016 #63

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K&R nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #74

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Now that's one hell of a place to get stuck. Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #87

It begins. I was expecting reminders of her racist 2008 campaign to hold off til South Carolina. ieoeja Jan 2016 #95

Don't even. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #100

Kick for the comments Babel_17 Jan 2016 #115

The post is minimalist, but it is unfortunate that in 2016 things from 2008 have to be trotted out. George II Jan 2016 #118

The more historical perspective, the better Babel_17 Jan 2016 #122

Yeah, this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #129

And when he gained it... MellowDem Jan 2016 #135

October 12, 2015. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #119

But that was the day he/she made his/her DU bones as a "Pillar of DU." 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #132

Not... A "Pillar of DU"... Just One Who Participates On A Discussion Board... Any Other Discussions WillyT Jan 2016 #144

What day was it that madville Jan 2016 #145