2016 Postmortem

CoffeeCat

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38. I think she'll tuck Bill away in a drawer after it's clear to Hillary

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:27 PM

Jan 2016

...that her husband is doing more harm that good.

She's doing this in IA and NH because the gap is closing and she's staring down the barrel of a very tight Iowa race. She had to do something.

Bernie has incredible momentum and crowds in Iowa. Clinton (neither of them) do not.

If Bernie continues this momentum in Iowa, especially going into the final two weeks--where anything can and does happen--then this will be a very, very tight Iowa race. In the end, it will depend on who gets their supporters to the caucuses.

Both teams have comparable ground games. Both have 26 offices, precinct captains at each of the 1650+ Iowa caucus sites and thousands of volunteers.

24 days and counting...

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Bill Clinton Is A Political Liability: In A Race Against Bernie Sanders, His Neoliberal Legacy Could [View all] WillyT Jan 2016 OP

No More Clintons. Wilms Jan 2016 #1

Agree: NO MOre CLintons and No more Bushes and No more RightWING 'Democrats' Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #14

People are fed up with Clinton Incorporated. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #26

Clinton 56 - Sanders 33 brooklynite Jan 2016 #40

Pretty much everyone I know, or come in contact with. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #48

Pauline Kael: "How did Nixon win? Nobody -I- know voted for him..." brooklynite Jan 2016 #49

You want that comparison?! You got it! reformist2 Jan 2016 #75

I agree. Cannot stand them! m-lekktor Jan 2016 #77

At this juncture in time fredamae Jan 2016 #2

Is this why DWS wanted as few debates as possible? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #3

It's clear, the push was to keep Bernie out of the public discussion NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #4

Yes, that much is pretty clear by now. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #6

It makes no difference, the writing is on the wall clear enough NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #7

Bernies numbers go down after debates redstateblues Jan 2016 #47

Only the other acronym(s), ISIS/ISIL Babel_17 Jan 2016 #58

Bill Clinton was well liked. He is still likable and witty, but with the passage of 15 years thereismore Jan 2016 #5

I'm calling Independents and Republicans in Iowa... CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #8

That is what I hear from many of my neighbors... SoapBox Jan 2016 #13

Consoling republicans! thereismore Jan 2016 #28

My biggest worry is about the general, if she is the nominee. Gmak Jan 2016 #30

And the largest voting block in Iowa is Independents CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #45

it sort of kiboshes the whole "she's running on her own, and she has nothing to do with his bills" MisterP Jan 2016 #52

Yes, it's a desperation move. Doesn't look good on her. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #54

that was a lot of the thoughts when Biden ran: "they" were dragging him from the graveside MisterP Jan 2016 #59

If Bernie got the nomination you people don't think he bigdarryl Jan 2016 #76

Ouch. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #9

No...More...Clintons. SoapBox Jan 2016 #10

Salon's business model is posting laughable flamebait ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #11

I would also say I view Clinton "favorably". But do I want his policies for the future? No. thereismore Jan 2016 #31

I am NOT fringe left! chknltl Jan 2016 #34

Okay, here's an honest question for you... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #41

The second Iraqi War was unnecessary. chknltl Jan 2016 #63

Bush was President AFTER Clinton ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #64

Your casualness regarding depleted uranium poisoning is astounding! chknltl Jan 2016 #65

You bash President Clinton over unnecessary wars... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #67

The world is not round.... like a pizza. chknltl Jan 2016 #71

You would be a lot more credible if you referenced an actual scientific study ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #72

You lack credibility the same way chknltl Jan 2016 #73

Whelp, okay. We have nothing to discuss. ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #83

Maybe in June 2014 when this dated poll was taken. floriduck Jan 2016 #44

A lot of people still love the Big Dog. lark Jan 2016 #12

I really love that Sanders supporters are running against both Clintons and the Democratic Party. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #15

I don't "love it" so much. I support Sanders, but these people really piss me off. Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #17

That OP was packed with all the jargon and talking points. Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #16

No more of the Clintons for me, I hope. Punkingal Jan 2016 #18

Folks that hate Bill is probably already in Bernie's camp firebrand80 Jan 2016 #19

For what it's worth, I watched just about all of the speech, and the women on stage.... George II Jan 2016 #20

And Clinton's $1 a gallon gasoline is going to burn, burn, burn L. Coyote Jan 2016 #21

I would like to personally thank Bill.... 99Forever Jan 2016 #22

Bill isn't the same person anymore SmittynMo Jan 2016 #23

Agreed. He's well liked, but his policies, not so much. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #32

I think she'll tuck Bill away in a drawer after it's clear to Hillary CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #38

How many voters who aren't political junkies even know what "neoliberal" means? Martin Eden Jan 2016 #24

Sorry to say but I disagree with you, Hillary is unelectable... andrewv1 Jan 2016 #50

I think that depends on the Republican nominee Martin Eden Jan 2016 #53

You are probably right... andrewv1 Jan 2016 #60

I've noticed that too Martin Eden Jan 2016 #61

Hillary and Bernie are both quite electable DFW Jan 2016 #80

Sorry, I have heard both.... andrewv1 Jan 2016 #82

He isn't hurting her a bit, but helping. Incidentally - Bill is not running for POTUS. Lil Missy Jan 2016 #25

Famous neolib millionaire supports famous neolib millionaire. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #27

Time will tell a different story, Trump is afraid of Bill on the campaign trail Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #29

Was that the famous "fairy tale" speech? floriduck Jan 2016 #46

No what I read earlier was the fairy tale. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #57

Sometimes you just crack me up. floriduck Jan 2016 #62

This place cracks me up iandhr Jan 2016 #33

I'm so sick of the Corporate Clintons SHRED Jan 2016 #35

Truth about the former president's record and impact has come out, appalachiablue Jan 2016 #36

Hard to ignore. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #43

Yep, the truth has come out. see this excellent article: kath Jan 2016 #68

A comprehensive record alright, thanks. appalachiablue Jan 2016 #70

+1000000 azmom Jan 2016 #79

Boom goes the dynamite! Major Hogwash Jan 2016 #37

Bill Clinton is not a liability. underpants Jan 2016 #39

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #42

Every day the Big Dog is on the campaign trail redstateblues Jan 2016 #51

might be true now that told him to "cut it out" SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #66

And based on Mrs. Sanders' record at Burlington College RandySF Jan 2016 #55

Thanks for the link Babel_17 Jan 2016 #56

Is this the video the Salon writer was talking about? I don't see any "unimpressed" or "lethargic" George II Jan 2016 #69

the only liability is a self-described socialist pretending to be a Democrat wyldwolf Jan 2016 #74

You're funny dlwickham Jan 2016 #78

The Big Dawg.......... Historic NY Jan 2016 #81