2016 Postmortem

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts) Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:58 AM Jan 2016

Sanders Calls Bill Clinton's Sexual Past 'Totally Disgraceful' [View all]

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders called Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretions during his presidency “totally disgraceful and unacceptable,” while campaigning in Iowa on Friday.

The comments came after a man asked the presidential hopeful if his main opponent, Hillary Clinton, was qualified to be president.

“My question to you is: Isn’t one of the qualifications of being president some sort of moral authority?” the man asked, noting that Clinton had “a known affair in the Oval with an intern” -- a reference to Monica Lewinsky.

“I hear what you’re saying,” Sanders interjected. “Look Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton. What Bill Clinton did, I think we can all acknowledged was totally, totally disgraceful and unacceptable, but I am running against Hillary Clinton. I am not running against Bill Clinton, though I understand he has been in Iowa recently.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-calls-bill-clintons-white-house-sex/story?id=36177942

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Sanders Calls Bill Clinton's Sexual Past 'Totally Disgraceful' [View all] NCTraveler Jan 2016 OP

LMAO leftofcool Jan 2016 #1

Good thing he was answering a direct question from an audience member... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #211

It is, but Bernie was replying to a question from a voter who cares about this sort of thing. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #2

I assume the Clintons won't find need to bring up children out of wedlock np Sheepshank Jan 2016 #166

Welcome to the 21st century, where this type of thing is generally accepted now. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #210

Interesting tactic ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #3

I really don't care who the president is screwing as long as it's not the country. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #4

Same here. Chemisse Jan 2016 #21

I don't think that's true at all CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #130

Bill Cosby is in one of the ads against Clinton. Chemisse Jan 2016 #207

The Real Issue Here Is With Hillary... K and R CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #209

This and the fact, most likely, that they had a daughter. I always thought it was political libdem4life Jan 2016 #244

Well, Bill was doing that too Armstead Jan 2016 #159

But William Clinton screwed the country also. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #178

He lectured women on welfare about "personal responsibility" and blamed them for their own poverty- Ken Burch Jan 2016 #257

William Clinton should have been a nominee for the Newt Gingrich guillaumeb Jan 2016 #265

Actually how Sanders responded was fine, the OP on the other hand, by selectively choosing the still_one Jan 2016 #5

I used the exact article title. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #6

ok, but that was not the main point of his answer either still_one Jan 2016 #8

What is the problem with using the title of the article? Nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #10

Do whatever you want, it is your thread, I just gave my input still_one Jan 2016 #16

Gee that's generous of you Cary Jan 2016 #23

I really wasn't trying to be rude. Sorry it came out that way. Appologies to the OP still_one Jan 2016 #42

I've seen worse but good for you for owning it. Cary Jan 2016 #45

agreed still_one Jan 2016 #46

Does anyone dispute that? Why? cali Jan 2016 #7

Do we need to re-litigate this? Cary Jan 2016 #25

No. And Sanders wasn't. cali Jan 2016 #33

I didn't ask Sanders I asked you Cary Jan 2016 #35

We will if Hillary is the nominee. John Poet Jan 2016 #258

That means Bernie Sanders should do it too. Cary Jan 2016 #261

Ugh. Skidmore Jan 2016 #9

Ok tell us about Sanders sexual escapades... Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #12

Google is your friend. nt Skidmore Jan 2016 #15

Meaning there is nothing except the misconstrued essay he did. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #17

Wrong. Skidmore Jan 2016 #19

Lol either way Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #20

He had a child out of wedlock. How awful. Armstead Jan 2016 #139

Oh hell! Thats it then. We have to vote for the oligarch. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #199

Oh my! He hasn't really been vetted has he? leftofcool Jan 2016 #31

Better than hilary Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #198

Lol, either provide a link or you are just making shit up! Nt Logical Jan 2016 #245

And? Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #11

He seems tired, the flailing lately has been on an uptick. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #13

Do you mean the poster of the OP? bvf Jan 2016 #22

No, Sanders. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #27

Elaborate. Link to his supposedly bizarre tweets and statements. cali Jan 2016 #36

Naptime? Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #38

Nope, link time. cali Jan 2016 #40

I'm sure you've heard of this thing called the Internet. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #43

And I'm sure you've heard a million times that it is up cali Jan 2016 #71

I'll get right to caring about that. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #76

So you have shit. Next time you want to present a pile of shit, feel free to do so. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #235

Your side's fascination with scat is noted. :) Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #236

^^^MADE UNTRUE STATEMENT. ASKED BY SEVERAL TO DOCUMENT. RUNS. HIDES, NO ANSWER FORTHCOMING^^^ DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #238

Something got stuck on your keyboard my dear little water chestnut. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #239

Your keyboard also seems to have a problem. It types LIES. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #240

Yoga is great for stress, love. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #241

You're not my LOVE, I promise. Don't call me that again. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #242

No love, you march into a subthread and start giving orders Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #243

Gross and classless. I asked you to stop. Have your tacky Internet drama. Farewell. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #251

You just can't quit me. Awwwwww. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #252

I asked you a few times to respect a request not to name-call. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #262

Aww, so precious. I drink the tears of the losing. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #263

Relax, babe. I'm not crying. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #264

Apparently not always because you never do. R B Garr Jan 2016 #78

Right? Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #79

Exactly. R B Garr Jan 2016 #91

Substantiate that bullshit claim. cali Jan 2016 #83

I see who you are trying to sound like. R B Garr Jan 2016 #89

Oh, LOL. Yes, please follow your own advice given here. R B Garr Jan 2016 #70

Perhaps you didn't understand the question. bvf Jan 2016 #48

Not understanding things appears to be your department. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #50

Nope, I understand just fine, thanks. bvf Jan 2016 #63

I'm sure that makes sense in your world. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #77

The apparent fact that it makes no sense to bvf Jan 2016 #80

You: asked who I referred to in my statement. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #81

Thrice. bvf Jan 2016 #96

@BernieSanders Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #98

Did you wash your hands like I asked? bvf Jan 2016 #99

Flailing. So sad to see. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #101

I see what you did there. Towels. Good one! bvf Jan 2016 #111

You know what they say, Immature artists borrow Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #193

I think Clinton can't handle the pressure of a primary campaign. Vattel Jan 2016 #120

I don't think Oscar Wilde has to worry about his day job. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #123

That is very true. Vattel Jan 2016 #124

Why the personal shot at the OP? one_voice Jan 2016 #200

He is going scorched earth. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #26

Sad to watch. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #30

Lol. What bullshit. cali Jan 2016 #37

I don't think so. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #44

Sexual dalliances are not very important in my eyes, but aggressive wars based on B.S. Human101948 Jan 2016 #14

Just because Repugs made so much hay over this, are we Dems supposed to be forever in denial? reformist2 Jan 2016 #18

Bill Clinton was a bad president. Forget the sexual trespasses. He just plain sucked CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #24

Trash talking a very good president here on DU because.... Cary Jan 2016 #28

Nope. Gore was not Clinton. Clinton sucked. Not Gore. CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #59

Bill Clinton's lying to the nation under oath Ichingcarpenter Jan 2016 #34

When losing, drag out Monica Lewinsky R B Garr Jan 2016 #73

What are morals? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #93

If you are talking about your morals, you are losing. R B Garr Jan 2016 #115

I didn't ask you about my morals, I asked you about yours, do these issues have moral ramifications? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #117

Those aren't morals. R B Garr Jan 2016 #118

Sure they are, is it moral or ethical to treat minorities, women or LGBT as less than equal Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #119

Those were issues, not morals. R B Garr Jan 2016 #122

Your morals affect your stance on those issues, is it right or wrong, is it just or unfair? Was Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #126

Now you see why you are losing when you talk R B Garr Jan 2016 #127

I care about yours, that's why I've been asking. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #132

I doubt you care about my morals... R B Garr Jan 2016 #144

I've sincerely asked you multiple times whether you believe the issues I posted above have Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #146

I've answered you several times. R B Garr Jan 2016 #147

My first post to you held the definition of morals. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #149

LOL, this thread is about Sanders answer to a RW R B Garr Jan 2016 #151

Your first post brought up a question about morals that's what I was responding to. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #154

That was decided in 1998. Remember? R B Garr Jan 2016 #156

You still couldn't bring yourself to answer my question is it right or wrong and the only thing Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #158

LMAO. I answered it several times, and your conclusion R B Garr Jan 2016 #165

In your opinion regarding any of the issues which I have posted, is it morally right or wrong? Yes Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #170

Is it okay to not be a virgin on your wedding night? R B Garr Jan 2016 #172

We've been talking about morals from your first post and I have been asking about yours not mine. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #173

Wrong again You've been imposing your personalized R B Garr Jan 2016 #175

Only because you never answered any of my questions. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #177

I've answered it several times. It was decided in R B Garr Jan 2016 #179

What happened in 1998 to answer my question? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #181

I already answered that. You ignored my comments about R B Garr Jan 2016 #183

Way to go. That was one of the more impressive dodge-ball performances I've seen in a sub-thread. nt jonno99 Jan 2016 #155

And here I thought bringing up slavery was the Dodge. R B Garr Jan 2016 #157

Nope - the points/questions were simply stated. You chose not to answer. The jonno99 Jan 2016 #160

LOL, which I answered many times, I.e., R B Garr Jan 2016 #163

The question is/was: "what are your morals?". The reply: "you don't care about my morals" is jonno99 Jan 2016 #174

Well, not being entitled and judgmental are morals R B Garr Jan 2016 #176

Thank you for finally answering the question. And I believe you know why jonno99 Jan 2016 #180

Actually it was answered LONG ago R B Garr Jan 2016 #182

Ok, consider: is it MORAL for someone to abuse the power of their office to take advantage jonno99 Jan 2016 #188

This is as hilarious as Bob Dole's "Where's the Outrage" R B Garr Jan 2016 #189

Silly post. It doesn't require "outrage" to objectively determine when someone is in error. That jonno99 Jan 2016 #191

Seconded. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #192

LOL at you trying to shame me now. R B Garr Jan 2016 #196

You're talking about two seperate issues. That the RW saw the ML story as a means jonno99 Jan 2016 #197

Oh, please. They were after Bill after he beat Bush. R B Garr Jan 2016 #202

Really? White slaveowners believed it was morally imperative to own Blacks zazen Jan 2016 #230

Oh, for God's sake, start a thread on slavery then! R B Garr Jan 2016 #231

six exclamation points? try relying on facts instead of punctuation n/t zazen Jan 2016 #233

Sanders did not drag out Lewinsky Bettie Jan 2016 #247

Omfg, my post was in response to a.1998 link R B Garr Jan 2016 #249

The article in the OP, which is what is under discussion Bettie Jan 2016 #250

OK, thx for explaining. There are some here who R B Garr Jan 2016 #253

Gore was more or less forced bvf Jan 2016 #75

Forced perhaps, by idiot advisors. The Big Dog was sitting on 60%+ approval ratings tritsofme Jan 2016 #148

No denying the numbers. bvf Jan 2016 #185

And Bill Clinton Gutted Glass-Steagall gordyfl Jan 2016 #49

As well as signed off on a very bad welfare reform bill. EndElectoral Jan 2016 #103

So did FDR, Interment camps, union busting, EOs out the wazoo, not listening to Jewish immigrants... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #102

He did suck, but he's so damn charming, most of us didn't know it until after he left. RiverLover Jan 2016 #259

He also said Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton. Vinca Jan 2016 #29

So you think the only possible answer to the question was a Republican talking point about Squinch Jan 2016 #72

I don't and didn't care about Bill's private life. Bernie could have abbreviated the Bill reference GoneFishin Jan 2016 #32

So I guess Bernie is not a new kind of politician after all. This is same old, same old crap, Squinch Jan 2016 #39

No, she has surrogates and supporters to do that for her. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #51

And he has himself, plus surrogates and supporters. So I see no difference between them now on Squinch Jan 2016 #52

Oh, so you were favoring Bernie right up until now? :-) djean111 Jan 2016 #57

I've been open all along that my priority is keeping Republicans out of the White House Squinch Jan 2016 #62

Me too Cary Jan 2016 #69

Sanders gave an honest answer to a direct question. bvf Jan 2016 #131

What you think about who I am voting for is really not of interest to anyone but you. Squinch Jan 2016 #164

Sanders spoke his mind. bvf Jan 2016 #195

I take it you disaprove of Kennedy's presidency too, then. Squinch Jan 2016 #205

Is that your version of a "gotcha"? bvf Jan 2016 #208

No. Actually what he did was call a candidate's husband "totally disgraceful." Squinch Jan 2016 #212

No, he called the candidate's husband's behavior disgraceful. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #214

Bernie said he wouldn't go negative. He went negative. Squinch Jan 2016 #215

He was asked a question, and he gave an answer. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #216

He gave an answer in which he went negative. Which he said he would not do. Squinch Jan 2016 #217

Debbie Wasserman Schultz says she's not against medical marijuana, but votes to send users to prison Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #218

The fact that is being disputed in this discussion is this: Bernie said he would not go negative Squinch Jan 2016 #219

No, that's the fact YOU want to dispute. You also said he called Bill Clinton "disgraceful", and he Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #220

Bernie said he would not go negative. He went negative on another candidate's spouse. Squinch Jan 2016 #221

He answered truthfully. If you think the truth is negative, ask yourself why. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #222

... sigh ... Squinch Jan 2016 #223

Fine, He went negative. On Bill Clinton. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #224

Well, now you're just making stuff up. bvf Jan 2016 #225

"Admit the error of your previous post, or I'm done talking to you here." Do you promise? Squinch Jan 2016 #226

There you go again. bvf Jan 2016 #227

Aren't you done talking to me? You said you were. Now YOU"RE doing what you said you wouldn't do. Squinch Jan 2016 #228

Wow! Between this and President Obama's thinly veiled jab at Sanders over gun control... wyldwolf Jan 2016 #41

this was not some prepared positon statement. This was an off the cuff answer Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #47

An off the cuff answer that went directly against how he said he would be running his campaign. Squinch Jan 2016 #53

would Hillary disagree with this statement? Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #54

I don't know. I do know that Bernie went directly against how he said he would run his campaign. Squinch Jan 2016 #56

he's not joining on some Republican bandwagon. He answered a question about Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #61

I'm not saying that HE is joining a Republican bandwagon. I am saying that all the people in this Squinch Jan 2016 #64

How so? TCJ70 Jan 2016 #60

Yes. Nailed it. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #65

So, you are saying that he never promised not to go negative on Bill and Bill's sex life? You're Squinch Jan 2016 #66

I'm saying he promised not to go negative on Hillary... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #84

So yes, you ARE going to go to those ridiculous lengths and I guess Bernie's wife is fair game now. Squinch Jan 2016 #86

She's already out there... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #88

And if you promise not to go negative, you should not go negative. He promised not to go negative, Squinch Jan 2016 #90

Try this... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #94

Try this: when you promise not to go negative, and you say you are a new kind of politician, Squinch Jan 2016 #162

Polly want a cracker? John Poet Jan 2016 #260

They already started on Jane Sanders. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #266

Bernie Was Asked A Question IllinoisBrenel Jan 2016 #55

So, you Approve of Clintons Past fredamae Jan 2016 #58

And many might care about an illegitimate child. leftofcool Jan 2016 #110

Circa What? 1970's? lol fredamae Jan 2016 #114

BILL CLINTON CAN DO NO WRONG. HE IS OUR ANSWER TO REAGAN !!! Hiraeth Jan 2016 #67

Jimmy Fallon gordyfl Jan 2016 #68

This is what politicians do when they are desperate. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #74

'punching below the belt', lol! reformist2 Jan 2016 #85

Yeah, pun not intended! MoonRiver Jan 2016 #95

yes Roy Ellefson Jan 2016 #82

Very revealing of the Hillarians. earthside Jan 2016 #87

Perhaps Bill's comments weren't as ineffective as some of Bernie's followers had suggested. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #92

Now there's a wonderful way of simultaneously launching an underhanded attack and claiming the moral Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #97

And that it was. Can't airbrush the past away. TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #100

It was irrelevant and not needed... there's no need to stoop to wingerish memes or tripe uponit7771 Jan 2016 #104

How is noting a powerful man conducting an affair with an young employee TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #105

Because its irrelevant, I could care if the powerful man loved a horse as long as they progressed.. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #106

LOL. Well, then go on not caring. But don't get upset when others find his conduct vile. TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #109

Could care less if they find it vile just not substinative to the subject of progressing the country uponit7771 Jan 2016 #112

Well, I think Bernie made the point that Bill and his thoroughly vile behavior TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #113

Bill should reciprocate and denounce Sanders illegitimate R B Garr Jan 2016 #107

Bill has too much class for that! leftofcool Jan 2016 #108

FYI stone space Jan 2016 #134

That's funny! Predictable, though. A good example R B Garr Jan 2016 #138

Not sure what you have against children. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #142

LOL. Uh huh. R B Garr Jan 2016 #143

Attacks on children are unacceptable, and I'm shocked to see this on DU. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #135

Totally misleading OP. Bernie was DEFENDING Hillary Clinton! senz Jan 2016 #116

Well those were Bills actions. He's on the campaign trail for Hillary. Autumn Jan 2016 #121

Personally, I found it disgraceful too. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #125

Nothing wrong with the totality of Sanders' response. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #128

Like Bernie's rape fantasy morality? nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #129

Fantasy does not hurt anyone. 840high Jan 2016 #137

Yeah, they're gonna try to use that essay he put in the alterna-weekly in '73 as a comeback. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #194

Is Sanders suggesting we jump into his or his wifes sexual history and use as a political too? seabeyond Jan 2016 #133

No. Are you? stone space Jan 2016 #136

He introduced the position. seabeyond Jan 2016 #145

No he didn't. That's not true. stone space Jan 2016 #153

Yes it is. He stated Clinton's sexual past was relevant, making the statement it was disgusting. seabeyond Jan 2016 #167

No, the actual word he used in answer to the question was "disgraceful" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #186

Your reply has nothing to do with my post. Argue away. I am not interested. seabeyond Jan 2016 #187

disgusting and disgraceful are two different words. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #190

He was VERY clear that it wasn't relevant to the situation at hand Bettie Jan 2016 #248

if she relied on millenia-long sexual privilege, yes zazen Jan 2016 #234

Bill isn't running. Hillary isn't responsible for Bill's behavior. Attacking a wife for the husbands seabeyond Jan 2016 #237

Lest there be any doubt as to where the negative messaging is coming from, ucrdem Jan 2016 #140

Exactly, Bill Clinton's sexual behavior in the White House was perfectly normal and acceptable Fumesucker Jan 2016 #150

Bill wasn't bashing Dems. ucrdem Jan 2016 #161

It was, and even his supporters agreed Armstead Jan 2016 #141

Thanks for the shit stir. floriduck Jan 2016 #152

Principled and without hypocricy Sheepshank Jan 2016 #168

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #169

Agree 100% with Bernie Dems to Win Jan 2016 #171

He certainly could have spared the country a lot of shit by not screwing around with Monica Lewinsky Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #184

I'm going to agree one_voice Jan 2016 #201

They dd. I thought there was no excuse for Ken Starr spending years and taxpayer dollars Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #204

Agree 100%. 840high Jan 2016 #203

Having sex with an intern half his age was sleazy. Denying it was stupid. winter is coming Jan 2016 #206

Other adjectives that come to mind include: randy, rowdy, shocking, scandolous, unethical, immoral, Hiraeth Jan 2016 #213

Bill Clinton's sex life is none of my fucking bussiness. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #229

And that's precisely what Bernie was saying. senz Jan 2016 #232

I was at that event Bettie Jan 2016 #246

He could have chosen the classy way out by saying that president's Clinton private life Beacool Jan 2016 #256

It was disgraceful behavior. Sanders was asked and he answered. And? merrily Jan 2016 #254

I have always found amusing the hypocritical and puritanical views of Americans on sex. Beacool Jan 2016 #255

An affair in the oval office with an intern TheFarseer Jan 2016 #267