2016 Postmortem

still_one

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5. Actually how Sanders responded was fine, the OP on the other hand, by selectively choosing the

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:06 AM

Jan 2016

Bill Clinton's sexual issues in the title, instead of "I am running against Hillary Clinton, not Bill Clinton", kind of implies the thread's intent is to create some flames.

Ironically, an aviator of Ted Kennedy is also somewhat puzzling, since Senator Kennedy himself had similar issues

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Sanders Calls Bill Clinton's Sexual Past 'Totally Disgraceful' [View all] NCTraveler Jan 2016 OP

LMAO leftofcool Jan 2016 #1

Good thing he was answering a direct question from an audience member... HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #211

It is, but Bernie was replying to a question from a voter who cares about this sort of thing. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #2

I assume the Clintons won't find need to bring up children out of wedlock np Sheepshank Jan 2016 #166

Welcome to the 21st century, where this type of thing is generally accepted now. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #210

Interesting tactic ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #3

I really don't care who the president is screwing as long as it's not the country. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #4

Same here. Chemisse Jan 2016 #21

I don't think that's true at all CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #130

Bill Cosby is in one of the ads against Clinton. Chemisse Jan 2016 #207

The Real Issue Here Is With Hillary... K and R CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #209

This and the fact, most likely, that they had a daughter. I always thought it was political libdem4life Jan 2016 #244

Well, Bill was doing that too Armstead Jan 2016 #159

But William Clinton screwed the country also. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #178

He lectured women on welfare about "personal responsibility" and blamed them for their own poverty- Ken Burch Jan 2016 #257

William Clinton should have been a nominee for the Newt Gingrich guillaumeb Jan 2016 #265

Actually how Sanders responded was fine, the OP on the other hand, by selectively choosing the still_one Jan 2016 #5

I used the exact article title. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #6

ok, but that was not the main point of his answer either still_one Jan 2016 #8

What is the problem with using the title of the article? Nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #10

Do whatever you want, it is your thread, I just gave my input still_one Jan 2016 #16

Gee that's generous of you Cary Jan 2016 #23

I really wasn't trying to be rude. Sorry it came out that way. Appologies to the OP still_one Jan 2016 #42

I've seen worse but good for you for owning it. Cary Jan 2016 #45

agreed still_one Jan 2016 #46

Does anyone dispute that? Why? cali Jan 2016 #7

Do we need to re-litigate this? Cary Jan 2016 #25

No. And Sanders wasn't. cali Jan 2016 #33

I didn't ask Sanders I asked you Cary Jan 2016 #35

We will if Hillary is the nominee. John Poet Jan 2016 #258

That means Bernie Sanders should do it too. Cary Jan 2016 #261

Ugh. Skidmore Jan 2016 #9

Ok tell us about Sanders sexual escapades... Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #12

Google is your friend. nt Skidmore Jan 2016 #15

Meaning there is nothing except the misconstrued essay he did. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #17

Wrong. Skidmore Jan 2016 #19

Lol either way Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #20

He had a child out of wedlock. How awful. Armstead Jan 2016 #139

Oh hell! Thats it then. We have to vote for the oligarch. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #199

Oh my! He hasn't really been vetted has he? leftofcool Jan 2016 #31

Better than hilary Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #198

Lol, either provide a link or you are just making shit up! Nt Logical Jan 2016 #245

And? Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #11

He seems tired, the flailing lately has been on an uptick. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #13

Do you mean the poster of the OP? bvf Jan 2016 #22

No, Sanders. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #27

Elaborate. Link to his supposedly bizarre tweets and statements. cali Jan 2016 #36

Naptime? Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #38

Nope, link time. cali Jan 2016 #40

I'm sure you've heard of this thing called the Internet. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #43

And I'm sure you've heard a million times that it is up cali Jan 2016 #71

I'll get right to caring about that. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #76

So you have shit. Next time you want to present a pile of shit, feel free to do so. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #235

Your side's fascination with scat is noted. :) Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #236

^^^MADE UNTRUE STATEMENT. ASKED BY SEVERAL TO DOCUMENT. RUNS. HIDES, NO ANSWER FORTHCOMING^^^ DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #238

Something got stuck on your keyboard my dear little water chestnut. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #239

Your keyboard also seems to have a problem. It types LIES. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #240

Yoga is great for stress, love. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #241

You're not my LOVE, I promise. Don't call me that again. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #242

No love, you march into a subthread and start giving orders Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #243

Gross and classless. I asked you to stop. Have your tacky Internet drama. Farewell. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #251

You just can't quit me. Awwwwww. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #252

I asked you a few times to respect a request not to name-call. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #262

Aww, so precious. I drink the tears of the losing. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #263

Relax, babe. I'm not crying. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #264

Apparently not always because you never do. R B Garr Jan 2016 #78

Right? Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #79

Exactly. R B Garr Jan 2016 #91

Substantiate that bullshit claim. cali Jan 2016 #83

I see who you are trying to sound like. R B Garr Jan 2016 #89

Oh, LOL. Yes, please follow your own advice given here. R B Garr Jan 2016 #70

Perhaps you didn't understand the question. bvf Jan 2016 #48

Not understanding things appears to be your department. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #50

Nope, I understand just fine, thanks. bvf Jan 2016 #63

I'm sure that makes sense in your world. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #77

The apparent fact that it makes no sense to bvf Jan 2016 #80

You: asked who I referred to in my statement. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #81

Thrice. bvf Jan 2016 #96

@BernieSanders Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #98

Did you wash your hands like I asked? bvf Jan 2016 #99

Flailing. So sad to see. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #101

I see what you did there. Towels. Good one! bvf Jan 2016 #111

You know what they say, Immature artists borrow Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #193

I think Clinton can't handle the pressure of a primary campaign. Vattel Jan 2016 #120

I don't think Oscar Wilde has to worry about his day job. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #123

That is very true. Vattel Jan 2016 #124

Why the personal shot at the OP? one_voice Jan 2016 #200

He is going scorched earth. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #26

Sad to watch. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #30

Lol. What bullshit. cali Jan 2016 #37

I don't think so. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #44

Sexual dalliances are not very important in my eyes, but aggressive wars based on B.S. Human101948 Jan 2016 #14

Just because Repugs made so much hay over this, are we Dems supposed to be forever in denial? reformist2 Jan 2016 #18

Bill Clinton was a bad president. Forget the sexual trespasses. He just plain sucked CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #24

Trash talking a very good president here on DU because.... Cary Jan 2016 #28

Nope. Gore was not Clinton. Clinton sucked. Not Gore. CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #59

Bill Clinton's lying to the nation under oath Ichingcarpenter Jan 2016 #34

When losing, drag out Monica Lewinsky R B Garr Jan 2016 #73

What are morals? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #93

If you are talking about your morals, you are losing. R B Garr Jan 2016 #115

I didn't ask you about my morals, I asked you about yours, do these issues have moral ramifications? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #117

Those aren't morals. R B Garr Jan 2016 #118

Sure they are, is it moral or ethical to treat minorities, women or LGBT as less than equal Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #119

Those were issues, not morals. R B Garr Jan 2016 #122

Your morals affect your stance on those issues, is it right or wrong, is it just or unfair? Was Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #126

Now you see why you are losing when you talk R B Garr Jan 2016 #127

I care about yours, that's why I've been asking. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #132

I doubt you care about my morals... R B Garr Jan 2016 #144

I've sincerely asked you multiple times whether you believe the issues I posted above have Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #146

I've answered you several times. R B Garr Jan 2016 #147

My first post to you held the definition of morals. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #149

LOL, this thread is about Sanders answer to a RW R B Garr Jan 2016 #151

Your first post brought up a question about morals that's what I was responding to. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #154

That was decided in 1998. Remember? R B Garr Jan 2016 #156

You still couldn't bring yourself to answer my question is it right or wrong and the only thing Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #158

LMAO. I answered it several times, and your conclusion R B Garr Jan 2016 #165

In your opinion regarding any of the issues which I have posted, is it morally right or wrong? Yes Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #170

Is it okay to not be a virgin on your wedding night? R B Garr Jan 2016 #172

We've been talking about morals from your first post and I have been asking about yours not mine. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #173

Wrong again You've been imposing your personalized R B Garr Jan 2016 #175

Only because you never answered any of my questions. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #177

I've answered it several times. It was decided in R B Garr Jan 2016 #179

What happened in 1998 to answer my question? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #181

I already answered that. You ignored my comments about R B Garr Jan 2016 #183

Way to go. That was one of the more impressive dodge-ball performances I've seen in a sub-thread. nt jonno99 Jan 2016 #155

And here I thought bringing up slavery was the Dodge. R B Garr Jan 2016 #157

Nope - the points/questions were simply stated. You chose not to answer. The jonno99 Jan 2016 #160

LOL, which I answered many times, I.e., R B Garr Jan 2016 #163

The question is/was: "what are your morals?". The reply: "you don't care about my morals" is jonno99 Jan 2016 #174

Well, not being entitled and judgmental are morals R B Garr Jan 2016 #176

Thank you for finally answering the question. And I believe you know why jonno99 Jan 2016 #180

Actually it was answered LONG ago R B Garr Jan 2016 #182

Ok, consider: is it MORAL for someone to abuse the power of their office to take advantage jonno99 Jan 2016 #188

This is as hilarious as Bob Dole's "Where's the Outrage" R B Garr Jan 2016 #189

Silly post. It doesn't require "outrage" to objectively determine when someone is in error. That jonno99 Jan 2016 #191

Seconded. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #192

LOL at you trying to shame me now. R B Garr Jan 2016 #196

You're talking about two seperate issues. That the RW saw the ML story as a means jonno99 Jan 2016 #197

Oh, please. They were after Bill after he beat Bush. R B Garr Jan 2016 #202

Really? White slaveowners believed it was morally imperative to own Blacks zazen Jan 2016 #230

Oh, for God's sake, start a thread on slavery then! R B Garr Jan 2016 #231

six exclamation points? try relying on facts instead of punctuation n/t zazen Jan 2016 #233

Sanders did not drag out Lewinsky Bettie Jan 2016 #247

Omfg, my post was in response to a.1998 link R B Garr Jan 2016 #249

The article in the OP, which is what is under discussion Bettie Jan 2016 #250

OK, thx for explaining. There are some here who R B Garr Jan 2016 #253

Gore was more or less forced bvf Jan 2016 #75

Forced perhaps, by idiot advisors. The Big Dog was sitting on 60%+ approval ratings tritsofme Jan 2016 #148

No denying the numbers. bvf Jan 2016 #185

And Bill Clinton Gutted Glass-Steagall gordyfl Jan 2016 #49

As well as signed off on a very bad welfare reform bill. EndElectoral Jan 2016 #103

So did FDR, Interment camps, union busting, EOs out the wazoo, not listening to Jewish immigrants... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #102

He did suck, but he's so damn charming, most of us didn't know it until after he left. RiverLover Jan 2016 #259

He also said Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton. Vinca Jan 2016 #29

So you think the only possible answer to the question was a Republican talking point about Squinch Jan 2016 #72

I don't and didn't care about Bill's private life. Bernie could have abbreviated the Bill reference GoneFishin Jan 2016 #32

So I guess Bernie is not a new kind of politician after all. This is same old, same old crap, Squinch Jan 2016 #39

No, she has surrogates and supporters to do that for her. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #51

And he has himself, plus surrogates and supporters. So I see no difference between them now on Squinch Jan 2016 #52

Oh, so you were favoring Bernie right up until now? :-) djean111 Jan 2016 #57

I've been open all along that my priority is keeping Republicans out of the White House Squinch Jan 2016 #62

Me too Cary Jan 2016 #69

Sanders gave an honest answer to a direct question. bvf Jan 2016 #131

What you think about who I am voting for is really not of interest to anyone but you. Squinch Jan 2016 #164

Sanders spoke his mind. bvf Jan 2016 #195

I take it you disaprove of Kennedy's presidency too, then. Squinch Jan 2016 #205

Is that your version of a "gotcha"? bvf Jan 2016 #208

No. Actually what he did was call a candidate's husband "totally disgraceful." Squinch Jan 2016 #212

No, he called the candidate's husband's behavior disgraceful. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #214

Bernie said he wouldn't go negative. He went negative. Squinch Jan 2016 #215

He was asked a question, and he gave an answer. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #216

He gave an answer in which he went negative. Which he said he would not do. Squinch Jan 2016 #217

Debbie Wasserman Schultz says she's not against medical marijuana, but votes to send users to prison Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #218

The fact that is being disputed in this discussion is this: Bernie said he would not go negative Squinch Jan 2016 #219

No, that's the fact YOU want to dispute. You also said he called Bill Clinton "disgraceful", and he Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #220

Bernie said he would not go negative. He went negative on another candidate's spouse. Squinch Jan 2016 #221

He answered truthfully. If you think the truth is negative, ask yourself why. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #222

... sigh ... Squinch Jan 2016 #223

Fine, He went negative. On Bill Clinton. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #224

Well, now you're just making stuff up. bvf Jan 2016 #225

"Admit the error of your previous post, or I'm done talking to you here." Do you promise? Squinch Jan 2016 #226

There you go again. bvf Jan 2016 #227

Aren't you done talking to me? You said you were. Now YOU"RE doing what you said you wouldn't do. Squinch Jan 2016 #228

Wow! Between this and President Obama's thinly veiled jab at Sanders over gun control... wyldwolf Jan 2016 #41

this was not some prepared positon statement. This was an off the cuff answer Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #47

An off the cuff answer that went directly against how he said he would be running his campaign. Squinch Jan 2016 #53

would Hillary disagree with this statement? Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #54

I don't know. I do know that Bernie went directly against how he said he would run his campaign. Squinch Jan 2016 #56

he's not joining on some Republican bandwagon. He answered a question about Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #61

I'm not saying that HE is joining a Republican bandwagon. I am saying that all the people in this Squinch Jan 2016 #64

How so? TCJ70 Jan 2016 #60

Yes. Nailed it. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #65

So, you are saying that he never promised not to go negative on Bill and Bill's sex life? You're Squinch Jan 2016 #66

I'm saying he promised not to go negative on Hillary... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #84

So yes, you ARE going to go to those ridiculous lengths and I guess Bernie's wife is fair game now. Squinch Jan 2016 #86

She's already out there... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #88

And if you promise not to go negative, you should not go negative. He promised not to go negative, Squinch Jan 2016 #90

Try this... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #94

Try this: when you promise not to go negative, and you say you are a new kind of politician, Squinch Jan 2016 #162

Polly want a cracker? John Poet Jan 2016 #260

They already started on Jane Sanders. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #266

Bernie Was Asked A Question IllinoisBrenel Jan 2016 #55

So, you Approve of Clintons Past fredamae Jan 2016 #58

And many might care about an illegitimate child. leftofcool Jan 2016 #110

Circa What? 1970's? lol fredamae Jan 2016 #114

BILL CLINTON CAN DO NO WRONG. HE IS OUR ANSWER TO REAGAN !!! Hiraeth Jan 2016 #67

Jimmy Fallon gordyfl Jan 2016 #68

This is what politicians do when they are desperate. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #74

'punching below the belt', lol! reformist2 Jan 2016 #85

Yeah, pun not intended! MoonRiver Jan 2016 #95

yes Roy Ellefson Jan 2016 #82

Very revealing of the Hillarians. earthside Jan 2016 #87

Perhaps Bill's comments weren't as ineffective as some of Bernie's followers had suggested. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #92

Now there's a wonderful way of simultaneously launching an underhanded attack and claiming the moral Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #97

And that it was. Can't airbrush the past away. TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #100

It was irrelevant and not needed... there's no need to stoop to wingerish memes or tripe uponit7771 Jan 2016 #104

How is noting a powerful man conducting an affair with an young employee TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #105

Because its irrelevant, I could care if the powerful man loved a horse as long as they progressed.. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #106

LOL. Well, then go on not caring. But don't get upset when others find his conduct vile. TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #109

Could care less if they find it vile just not substinative to the subject of progressing the country uponit7771 Jan 2016 #112

Well, I think Bernie made the point that Bill and his thoroughly vile behavior TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #113

Bill should reciprocate and denounce Sanders illegitimate R B Garr Jan 2016 #107

Bill has too much class for that! leftofcool Jan 2016 #108

FYI stone space Jan 2016 #134

That's funny! Predictable, though. A good example R B Garr Jan 2016 #138

Not sure what you have against children. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #142

LOL. Uh huh. R B Garr Jan 2016 #143

Attacks on children are unacceptable, and I'm shocked to see this on DU. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #135

Totally misleading OP. Bernie was DEFENDING Hillary Clinton! senz Jan 2016 #116

Well those were Bills actions. He's on the campaign trail for Hillary. Autumn Jan 2016 #121

Personally, I found it disgraceful too. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #125

Nothing wrong with the totality of Sanders' response. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #128

Like Bernie's rape fantasy morality? nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #129

Fantasy does not hurt anyone. 840high Jan 2016 #137

Yeah, they're gonna try to use that essay he put in the alterna-weekly in '73 as a comeback. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #194

Is Sanders suggesting we jump into his or his wifes sexual history and use as a political too? seabeyond Jan 2016 #133

No. Are you? stone space Jan 2016 #136

He introduced the position. seabeyond Jan 2016 #145

No he didn't. That's not true. stone space Jan 2016 #153

Yes it is. He stated Clinton's sexual past was relevant, making the statement it was disgusting. seabeyond Jan 2016 #167

No, the actual word he used in answer to the question was "disgraceful" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #186

Your reply has nothing to do with my post. Argue away. I am not interested. seabeyond Jan 2016 #187

disgusting and disgraceful are two different words. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #190

He was VERY clear that it wasn't relevant to the situation at hand Bettie Jan 2016 #248

if she relied on millenia-long sexual privilege, yes zazen Jan 2016 #234

Bill isn't running. Hillary isn't responsible for Bill's behavior. Attacking a wife for the husbands seabeyond Jan 2016 #237

Lest there be any doubt as to where the negative messaging is coming from, ucrdem Jan 2016 #140

Exactly, Bill Clinton's sexual behavior in the White House was perfectly normal and acceptable Fumesucker Jan 2016 #150

Bill wasn't bashing Dems. ucrdem Jan 2016 #161

It was, and even his supporters agreed Armstead Jan 2016 #141

Thanks for the shit stir. floriduck Jan 2016 #152

Principled and without hypocricy Sheepshank Jan 2016 #168

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #169

Agree 100% with Bernie Dems to Win Jan 2016 #171

He certainly could have spared the country a lot of shit by not screwing around with Monica Lewinsky Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #184

I'm going to agree one_voice Jan 2016 #201

They dd. I thought there was no excuse for Ken Starr spending years and taxpayer dollars Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #204

Agree 100%. 840high Jan 2016 #203

Having sex with an intern half his age was sleazy. Denying it was stupid. winter is coming Jan 2016 #206

Other adjectives that come to mind include: randy, rowdy, shocking, scandolous, unethical, immoral, Hiraeth Jan 2016 #213

Bill Clinton's sex life is none of my fucking bussiness. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #229

And that's precisely what Bernie was saying. senz Jan 2016 #232

I was at that event Bettie Jan 2016 #246

He could have chosen the classy way out by saying that president's Clinton private life Beacool Jan 2016 #256

It was disgraceful behavior. Sanders was asked and he answered. And? merrily Jan 2016 #254

I have always found amusing the hypocritical and puritanical views of Americans on sex. Beacool Jan 2016 #255

An affair in the oval office with an intern TheFarseer Jan 2016 #267