2016 Postmortem

enid602

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186. welfare reform

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:43 AM

Jan 2016

Clinton did not have the votes in the legislature to stop welfare reform. He, was however able to temper it by raising the EIC (the tax day credit that gives low wage workers a considerable tax credit to more approximate a living wage), thereby ushering the largest migration out of poverty in US history. But you forget that. I believe that FDR devised Aid for Families with Dependents as way of ameliorating poverty among families during his lifetime. A bridge, if you will. But if welfare reform was 'grotesque, loathesome and disgusting' as you say, why isn't repeal of welfare reform part of Bernie's platform?

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If you send Bill Clinton out as your surrogate [View all] Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 OP

BILL CLINTON IS A GOD !!! Hiraeth Jan 2016 #1

Unfortunately, that god is ZEUS. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #99

ZEUS IS A GOD !!! Hiraeth Jan 2016 #103

Zeus!....Zeus!..... PatrickforO Jan 2016 #151

Then Bernie best not send out his wife RandySF Jan 2016 #2

Oh, like that hasn't been brought up right here at DU. djean111 Jan 2016 #4

Yes it's been on DU RandySF Jan 2016 #17

Lol. You posted two pieces yesterday slamming her. cali Jan 2016 #5

But according to the OP, there is nothing wrong with that. Squinch Jan 2016 #6

I'm not whining, I'm warning....dear RandySF Jan 2016 #10

Ooh, I'm so scared cali Jan 2016 #21

... Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #181

Thanks for the warning update Randy. FarPoint Jan 2016 #128

Wow, i thought the headlines were hyperbolic, but you guys really ARE getting nervous. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #180

Because of bullshit right wing nonsense? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #7

It can be brought out, also, remember the GOP has not vetted Sanders yet, lots of information Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #18

Indeed. Stand by. Most of Hillary's supporters here have learned the hard way ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #36

I think the "hair on fire" reaction from some, in regard to the PP endorsement of Hillary is a still_one Jan 2016 #168

got any skeletons for us now? ish of the hammer Jan 2016 #55

Has cgoogle restricted your access? Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #113

you are the one talking about skeletons falling out of the closet - ish of the hammer Jan 2016 #125

Heard this also from rightwing, racist teapartiers on another board. Like deja vu for me randys1 Jan 2016 #106

investigate Bernie and his wife 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #8

Are you sure? Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #19

You constantly say Bernie will be vetted...why don't you just post these dire things you hint at? Punkingal Jan 2016 #25

It's been done. Such things never survive alerts. (Go figure.) NurseJackie Jan 2016 #37

Because I am not the GOP. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #94

if you got the dirt, share it. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #29

Are you supporting Sanders? I do my research on the Candidates, I do not Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #96

In other words, you got nothing. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #102

I have supported him for years, and I'm not asking you to do my work for me. Punkingal Jan 2016 #109

Yep. This Vermonter is pretty sure. cali Jan 2016 #45

compared to Clinton? 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #75

That's because the Clintons have been on the national and world stage for decades, whereas.... George II Jan 2016 #78

or is it because they are dishonest as hell 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #89

Oh really Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #97

Yes - really. 840high Jan 2016 #161

Some people would rather that Clinton didn't come back 20 years later. Tennis Magnet Jan 2016 #159

I actually thought Edwards was a saint yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #156

re Edwards enid602 Jan 2016 #166

So true. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #174

Hillary's lies alone make people 840high Jan 2016 #158

hypocritical enid602 Jan 2016 #13

Oh! The horror!!!!! notadmblnd Jan 2016 #32

pretty much enid602 Jan 2016 #40

The banks are KNOWN to be immoral uponit7771 Jan 2016 #57

Please, detail the circumstances of this horror of a scandal notadmblnd Jan 2016 #65

LMGTFY... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #66

So you don't know? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #68

loan enid602 Jan 2016 #160

fraud enid602 Jan 2016 #127

Well, she lost her job because of it. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #153

lawyers enid602 Jan 2016 #167

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fees vs overstatement of assets enid602 Jan 2016 #178

It is a big deal ... GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #182

Naive? enid602 Jan 2016 #185

And even if that is true (and it's not been investigated much to determine), it's still Fawke Em Jan 2016 #189

Score one for reason. n/t bvf Jan 2016 #3

Well, actually, it's but ONE of his problems... haikugal Jan 2016 #9

Everyday the Big Dog is campaigning redstateblues Jan 2016 #11

Knowing what I know now, I would not cross the street to see him. djean111 Jan 2016 #14

Voted for him, now I am saddened that I was so taken in by that man. nt artislife Jan 2016 #115

NAFTA DOMA End Welfare as We Know It Omnibus Crime Financial Deregulation Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #26

Here's an article with a list of many ways Bill screwed over the 99%: kath Jan 2016 #71

Peace for whom Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #39

War on welfare recipients happynewyear Jan 2016 #61

+1 azurnoir Jan 2016 #95

welfare reform enid602 Jan 2016 #186

Why don't you ask Bernie Sanders this question? happynewyear Jan 2016 #187

Interesting enid602 Jan 2016 #188

You're blaming him for those? You, Cruz, and Rubio redstateblues Jan 2016 #144

Are you denying Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #147

Rwanda, LOL, can you imagine what that poster would be saying if we had invaded stevenleser Jan 2016 #177

Ya mean like $15,000,000,000.... 99Forever Jan 2016 #58

+1 tecelote Jan 2016 #88

Sure... if you weren't poor and needed that safety net/jobs kdmorris Jan 2016 #120

Tell that to the Iraqi people n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #126

Jury results: merrily Jan 2016 #12

Not even a remotely imaginative misuse of the alert button. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #27

I think the U.S.S. Adjective sailed months ago. merrily Jan 2016 #34

I think they get extra points or do double duty grave dancing whe they snag themselves an old timer. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #41

I knew "bimbo trail" was risky and considered replacing it. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #46

When did the RW get the "bimbo" franchise? Proserpina Jan 2016 #51

Yeah.. one_voice Jan 2016 #111

You do know that Bill did in fact have a series of extramarital affairs, right? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #131

Of course I'm aware... one_voice Jan 2016 #134

Where did I blame Hillary Clinton for Bill's asshole behavior? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #135

Hold your breath while you wait. n/t one_voice Jan 2016 #137

At least you admit you've got nothing. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #139

Calling these women "bimbos" Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #164

That alert also failed. But it was closer. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #183

Right. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #184

So ridiculous. The truth is filth. An anonymous post on DU tarnishes Sanders merrily Jan 2016 #50

Yeah, well- sticks and stones..... notadmblnd Jan 2016 #64

We've agree on this merrily Jan 2016 #69

I don't disagree with that, I just happen to think it is what it is. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #72

I think it is a special issue for women. merrily Jan 2016 #74

Yeah, but call it out and move on. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #77

Connection with Bill Clinton's past is "demeaning to us all"? delrem Jan 2016 #83

It's not that they didn't try notadmblnd Jan 2016 #43

But doesn't that depend on what the meaning of is is to sycophants? HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #101

Juror #7 - we're not voting for DU. 840high Jan 2016 #162

Bill Clinton was the FIRST disastrous hire of Hillary Clinton Proserpina Jan 2016 #15

What in holy hell are you babbling about? Godhumor Jan 2016 #22

WTF? winter is coming Jan 2016 #172

I agree (nt) bigwillq Jan 2016 #16

Perhaps I'm in a small minority but I found his escapades disgraceful and disturbing then cali Jan 2016 #20

And I find her putting up with it even more disturbing Proserpina Jan 2016 #23

I don't. cali Jan 2016 #31

That really bugs me too. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #35

I do too n/t MissDeeds Jan 2016 #42

I'm sure she did the political calculation -"which will hurt my career more - ditching him, or being kath Jan 2016 #73

^^^ agree with this ^^^ Hiraeth Jan 2016 #84

+10000000 azmom Jan 2016 #91

exactly which is better being the current Mrs Clinton or the ex Mrs Clinton azurnoir Jan 2016 #98

Are you disturbed that Eleanor Roosevelt didn't leave Franklin, Tanuki Jan 2016 #107

Yes, frankly. I am. Proserpina Jan 2016 #110

sadly i do too questionseverything Jan 2016 #129

Another case of "It's okay if you are a Republican -lite" Proserpina Jan 2016 #133

My mom was still alive at that time happynewyear Jan 2016 #148

He put his penis ahead of anything else bigwillq Jan 2016 #28

I'm not inclined to pass any judgment on sexual affairs of people I don't know personally bigtree Jan 2016 #53

Larry Klayman is irrelevant to my opinion cali Jan 2016 #60

of course, I remarked on more than Klayman bigtree Jan 2016 #67

I think you mistake whining... NCTraveler Jan 2016 #24

No really it is whining. And quite a bit of it, as you of course are aware. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #30

At least, someone should tell the Hillary campaign that Bill's hedgehog Jan 2016 #33

Marital problems do not negate anybody's romantic stories of how they met. stone space Jan 2016 #47

Having gone through the romantic courtship AND the bitter divorce, I must disagree Proserpina Jan 2016 #62

Agreed. Cringeworthy! Dems to Win Jan 2016 #87

Bill fucking REPEALED GLASS STEAGAL for christsakes!!! Indepatriot Jan 2016 #38

Lobbying for the Commodities Futures Act of 2000 has done as much damage, if not more, merrily Jan 2016 #52

He just signed the bill...... Historic NY Jan 2016 #63

Bill also openly supported its repeal. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #92

No, it's not "fair game", but as near as I can tell, ... stone space Jan 2016 #44

Of course its fair game. The people who campaign for you, more specifically who you send out Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #48

THe corporatist that gave us NAFTA, GATT, WTO, the end of Glass-Stegall, the Tellecommunications act Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #49

Yes, wingers have been talking about Clenis for a long time... wingers uponit7771 Jan 2016 #54

There are "wingers" on both sides of the political spectrum. Beacool Jan 2016 #121

Yeap, I tell republicans all the time the DNC is full of conservatives that can't vote for stupid.. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #123

Penises and emais will dominate. The hot topics we will all be hearing about. Autumn Jan 2016 #56

You mean the guy that still has a 60% approval rating............. Historic NY Jan 2016 #59

first of all, it's only a 'game' to those who practice the politics of personal destruction bigtree Jan 2016 #70

my my whatta devastating rebuttal via indictment of a bad word choice stupidicus Jan 2016 #81

hey, stupidicus bigtree Jan 2016 #85

musta missed your imaginary rebuttal stupidicus Jan 2016 #191

indeed, the negative ramifications of his criminal justice/welfare reform should be pinned on HC too stupidicus Jan 2016 #76

If the far RW and some on the left, want to run in circles screaming ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #79

as I said, that is the least of his problems. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #100

Yea, that high approval rating he had ... the peace, prosperity during his ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #105

we bombed the hell out of Iraq during his presidency. smiley Jan 2016 #170

Support and defense of the Clinton campaign sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #80

Right, his record on public matters elleng Jan 2016 #82

I spent the 90s (and after) defending Bill Clinton. Still don't care about his penis. senz Jan 2016 #86

"GOP women urge Trump to drop talk of Bill Clinton sex scandals" emulatorloo Jan 2016 #90

Trump has the same problem and can't keep a wife larkrake Jan 2016 #93

Is Trump campaigning for a Democratic candidate, at their request? 99Forever Jan 2016 #117

EXACT words I heard from a teaparty rightwing racist on another board. randys1 Jan 2016 #104

What utter nonsense. Correlation does not imply causation. cali Jan 2016 #116

Link please.... truebrit71 Jan 2016 #124

NO, I wont link rightwingers on other boards, that you dont believe what I am saying randys1 Jan 2016 #149

No. I just asked you to back your statement up. truebrit71 Jan 2016 #150

You are on record questioning whether or not I saw rightwingers attacking Hillary... randys1 Jan 2016 #152

No. I am on record asking you to back up your assertion. truebrit71 Jan 2016 #154

Oh yay, another blame Hillary.. one_voice Jan 2016 #112

I couldn't agree more... BooScout Jan 2016 #114

Did you actually read what I wrote? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #132

Here: one_voice Jan 2016 #136

And how exactly is that blaming Hillary for Bill's penis problem? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #138

Keep holding. n/t one_voice Jan 2016 #140

So when you said " Oh yay, another blame Hillary.." you were slandering me. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #142

.. mcar Jan 2016 #143

So sad to see Sanders supporters stoop to this alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #118

It was sad for me that 840high Jan 2016 #163

Wow, this board has really become a cesspool. Beacool Jan 2016 #119

If you attack Bill Clinton you are not helping Democrats win. Period. nt ucrdem Jan 2016 #122

Perhaps Bill should have thought of that. 840high Jan 2016 #165

Fuck that noise. Bill's not running for anything and pretending he doesn't have major flaws winter is coming Jan 2016 #173

Are folks on DU TeddyR Jan 2016 #130

I will have to work until I reach at least 70... 99Forever Jan 2016 #141

As Christopher Hitchens said, Bill got things passed that republicans.... truebrit71 Jan 2016 #171

Bill Clinton did NOT save this party -in fact he did incredible damage to it with the goddam DLC kath Jan 2016 #145

You aren't serious? TeddyR Jan 2016 #175

Oh, baloney. I supported Clinton at the time, but lets not whitewash his record. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #146

I had a young family during his term bigtree Jan 2016 #155

Im not portraying it as a failure. The 90s were exciting and saw some real prosperity. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #157

Where has Gennifer Flowers gone? long time ago. Where have all the husbands gone? reddread Jan 2016 #169

As Bernie so eloquently put it: �Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton." emulatorloo Jan 2016 #176

but she sure bears the shame of being his wife, and its not an act of heroism reddread Jan 2016 #179

His insisting on listening to rap and metal. Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #190