2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Ralph Nader: Hillary Clinton a “corporatist” and “militarist” [View all]joshcryer
(62,534 posts)I thought this was common knowledge? Clinton has, for some 40 years, been political, in the system, part of the status quo, an overachiever, big time political wonk.
As far as blaming Clinton for Libya, had the UN not got involved, then Libya would unquestionably look like Syria right now. Syria did not have any major defections, there was no large territory taken in the early phases of the war, and it still resulted in 250k dead civilians. R2P was invoked for the first time in Libya and it resulted in a much less unstable scenario to where it's safer than a lot of Latin American countries.
Anyone who blames the UN for the actions in Libya must explain how Libya would be better than Syria when Syria had no major military defections but Libya did. When Syria had no major arms depots raided but Libya did. When Syria had no besieged cities freed from outside sources but Libya did (Misrata).