History of Feminism

MadrasT

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14. No.

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:50 AM

Aug 2012

OP does not need to "lighten up".

You are welcome to disagree, and OP gets to feel exactly how OP feels.

"Lighten up" was uncalled for and is yet another way people try to shut women up.

Women do not need to shut up.

Ever.

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I am floored by the results of the last alert I sent regarding mysogyny...Three out of three thought [View all] whathehell Aug 2012 OP

What kind of dickhead would vote to leave a post like that? Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #1

Dude Lebowski jurists Scootaloo Aug 2012 #2

To be honest, whathehell Aug 2012 #8

They cannot see who altered. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #56

You mean "alerted"? whathehell Aug 2012 #82

Oops! ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #84

I'm on juries once or twice a week. You can't see who alerted. TalkingDog Aug 2012 #125

Great, me too, & I'm willing to accept I might have been wrong regarding visibility of alerters whathehell Aug 2012 #132

You're kind of humorless aren't you? I wasn't being snarky, but if that's how you choose TalkingDog Aug 2012 #149

so, you resort to name calling and personal attacks thru out a post to make your point? seabeyond Aug 2012 #150

No, but it's what stupid guys often say about feminists, lol. whathehell Aug 2012 #151

Tamp down the insults, please... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #174

Blatant troll or blatant full frontal assault of an insult Warpy Aug 2012 #177

I've gotten smacked down like that too, esp. when I alert about posts condoning sexual abuse of LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #81

How many members are on here? caseymoz Sep 2012 #184

"How many members are on here"? whathehell Sep 2012 #187

According to my profile caseymoz Sep 2012 #188

I love your use of "dickhead" to deride someone ok with the use of "twat". bunnies Aug 2012 #25

There is a certain irony there... Perhaps we might likewise avoid male-associated terms, although... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #36

hmmm. bunnies Aug 2012 #43

I don't know... But it seems to be in the wider vernacular of general use. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #48

I think its too late for that. bunnies Aug 2012 #66

Yes, except that the "dominant" group, is less vulnerable to feeling disrespected than the less so. whathehell Aug 2012 #96

Yes. I agree hlthe2b Aug 2012 #100

Yes, thanks. n/t whathehell Aug 2012 #102

Yes, total peckerheads Warpy Aug 2012 #129

You got it. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #138

what garbage. any of my men or boys would be offended. but hey... this is a giggle for men with seabeyond Aug 2012 #147

unfortunately, the results were not in the least surprising. reading further down, it is apparent niyad Aug 2012 #3

That's true. whathehell Aug 2012 #10

this is why i continually challenge this "war" being just on the right. it is not. seabeyond Aug 2012 #41

yes. du has been having a feild day letting the crap stand as they cry OUTRAGE i tell you, over the seabeyond Aug 2012 #40

Some might not actually know what it means. Over a period of time, I've found that a number AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #128

Particularly a problem with humor eridani Aug 2012 #162

Yes... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #4

Wow....I thought the C-word was strictly against the rules. whathehell Aug 2012 #11

They are aware. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #12

Well, why the hell are they not doing anything about it, then?..What is their "rationale" if any? whathehell Aug 2012 #21

There has been a very different climate established in DU3--community standards are more subject hlthe2b Aug 2012 #24

It does seem to be getting VERY nasty here, and not only regading women's issues. whathehell Aug 2012 #27

With the jury system the majority rules. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #29

Very true hlthe2b Aug 2012 #31

Just a few words in the TOS would change everything. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #34

and this was suggest from a huge thread allowing c word in the first days of du. a simple fix. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #46

I'm not sure but I think that is the goal, LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #124

i believe i made a payment to participate in this site. they offered a product seabeyond Aug 2012 #126

I like your spirit! I am just worn down lately LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #144

which was my observation and concern in the "try out" of the new du. i was told to have faith seabeyond Aug 2012 #45

No, it doesn't. caseymoz Sep 2012 #185

DU3 changed from a moderator system to a more fluid jury system to oversee "community standards" hlthe2b Aug 2012 #30

So it seems. whathehell Aug 2012 #142

Let the lowest common denominator ride BanzaiBonnie Aug 2012 #139

Yeah, that will really encourage people to post. whathehell Aug 2012 #140

DU has a zero tolerance policy for some things - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #20

the c-word does not bother me personally, because I have a little routine I use when I am called niyad Aug 2012 #15

correct. i have seen the c word stand 8 times. adms assured us, that it would not be allowed. seabeyond Aug 2012 #42

Lighten up. earthside Aug 2012 #5

earthside, you can certainly disagree as to the impact or intent behind the use of the word... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #7

Thank you. n/t MadrasT Aug 2012 #18

No. MadrasT Aug 2012 #14

Thank you. n/t whathehell Aug 2012 #22

You "lighten up". whathehell Aug 2012 #16

and your cavalier attitude is exactly the kind of thing the OP meant. niyad Aug 2012 #17

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #23

"Lighten up." no. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #47

That post would have been hidden on DU2 by the moderators. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #114

I was on that jury gopiscrap Aug 2012 #6

Perhaps you could post the comments? The OP just got results and was not the first alerter. nt MADem Aug 2012 #9

I said gopiscrap Aug 2012 #68

No, not your comments alone--the entire jury result, with the comments of all the jurors. nt MADem Aug 2012 #75

Let me thank you for that. whathehell Aug 2012 #35

you're welcome gopiscrap Aug 2012 #69

Thanks again. whathehell Aug 2012 #97

thank you. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #49

You're welcome! gopiscrap Aug 2012 #70

I Don't Know How Much This Accounted for the Decision, On the Road Aug 2012 #13

I disagree. If what you are saying is true, why did she say in THIS case it's "appropriate"? whathehell Aug 2012 #19

Why? I Would Assume That It's Because On the Road Aug 2012 #120

You can assume what you will. whathehell Aug 2012 #122

everyone has a reason to dismiss the use of the c word, also. i have heard it repeatedly. thank you seabeyond Aug 2012 #50

I understand your dismay, but isn't this thread a violation of DU rules? Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #26

What rule? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #28

Good point. They used to post rules here. I can no longer find them. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #55

As a co-host of this group, please DO tell me what it is that you find in opposition to the rules. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #32

sort of.... madrchsod Aug 2012 #33

It used to be that you could not start a thread to call out posters or mod/admin decisions. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #57

Do you not visit Meta? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #59

Not until 30 seconds ago. I had no idea it existed. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #61

I can appreciate that... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #64

Thanks. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #71

wtf? yes women, it is offensive now shut the fuck up and let us play. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #51

Not even close to what I said, but do carry on. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #54

i let just about eveything stay on, cause LET IT ROLL OFF YOUR BACKS. pansypoo53219 Aug 2012 #37

Um, some people are more sensitive than your average rock. whathehell Aug 2012 #38

yes... the whole world is letting the misogyny roll off their back. look where it has gotten us. seabeyond Aug 2012 #53

No fucking way. MadrasT Aug 2012 #77

There is nothing inconsistent about both taking a public stand pnwmom Aug 2012 #89

sorry, but it just does not work that way. we have been fighting a battle against the denigration niyad Aug 2012 #107

an all around concerted effort in disrespect and dehumanizing women to an extent that allow repugs seabeyond Aug 2012 #39

I assume you are saying that - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #44

yes. i am saying, since we allow it for women, lets go after blacks and gays. we will NOT allow it seabeyond Aug 2012 #60

Given that I am LGBT I concur that misogyny is a problem in our own community - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #63

that is all i am saying. as i said, my votes against racism or homophobia is consistent with my vote seabeyond Aug 2012 #65

This is something I've heard discussed a lot pnwmom Aug 2012 #87

Your post is off-topic, off-putting and this is horse manure - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #91

You said that misogyny exists among the LGBT community. pnwmom Aug 2012 #95

The misogyny remaining in the LGBT community is DURHAM D Aug 2012 #103

Yup--those males Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #175

Damned right....Katha Politt, who was on "UP" today, said "Misogyny is the whathehell Aug 2012 #98

'Misogyny' is the correct spelling :) tama Aug 2012 #52

No, dear, it's just the latest spelling. whathehell Aug 2012 #94

It's Greek to me tama Aug 2012 #99

That's nice...I'm very impressed, which I'd guess whathehell Aug 2012 #104

Stop being the word police here on DU DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #58

so, you are suggesting we allow the n word and the f word? lets see how that plays out. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #62

I don't give a crap about using the f word, but part of the gopiscrap Aug 2012 #73

fuck? fuck... i use fuck all the time, lol. fuckin do not care a fuck about fuck seabeyond Aug 2012 #74

I am not scared of any words DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #78

That makes no sense when it is "our" side that is doing it. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #86

Well, aren't you big and brave?...On the other hand, you're Male whathehell Aug 2012 #101

"good chance you know NOTHING" a very good chance. almost a certainty. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #108

Thanks. whathehell Aug 2012 #123

and you would be the white male that does not believe in privilege and patriarchy, right? nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #106

Men don't get to tell women what they should not be offended by. MadrasT Aug 2012 #111

Vagina Monologues and cultural differences tama Aug 2012 #115

when sexisim and racism is live and well, it is only giving credit of use to those that seabeyond Aug 2012 #118

In my experience tama Aug 2012 #119

look, it is simple. none of them "hurt" me as an individual. but does as a gender. seabeyond Aug 2012 #121

"language matters. language creates." tama Aug 2012 #136

this is a safe haven group... Telling others to "leave and don't come back" that you disagree with . hlthe2b Aug 2012 #67

You just drove me away from EVER participating in "your" group DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #80

As you wish... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #88

um. you made it damn clear that you had no interest even considering, let alone being won over. seabeyond Aug 2012 #109

No. MadrasT Aug 2012 #79

Stop telling people what to do..Words ARE policed here, duh, as you'll find out quickly if you whathehell Aug 2012 #90

Actually, he's been here since 2008....5 YEARS longer than you. PassingFair Aug 2012 #146

Nope, I've been here since 2008 as well. whathehell Aug 2012 #169

Oops, I meant to type 2003 .... PassingFair Aug 2012 #172

on the other hand, if you don't like bad behaviour being called out, you are also free to leave niyad Aug 2012 #110

Precisely. Bravo! whathehell Aug 2012 #171

It seems to be referring to Cher, not the OP Chemisse Aug 2012 #72

Yes, that's what I mean and it should NOT be accepted, just as other slurs are not. n/t whathehell Aug 2012 #83

I've seen a lot alerts sent about other subjects, especially degrading one's personal religious demosincebirth Aug 2012 #85

How about alerting on slurs on race, ethnicity or sexual orientation? whathehell Aug 2012 #93

let me ask you something:what position do you take when a whole thread is devoted demosincebirth Aug 2012 #131

I most certainly DO step up whathehell Aug 2012 #133

bringing any kinda balance into the religious threads is as combative as going head on in a sexist seabeyond Aug 2012 #134

Yep, in fact I think it may be worse. whathehell Aug 2012 #143

You're agnostic, just think how Catholics/Christians on Du feel stepping into a fray to defend demosincebirth Aug 2012 #137

Believe me, that doesn't help...As I said, most of them whathehell Aug 2012 #141

i have never seen so many adults acquiesce responsibility in creating a world of sexism, seabeyond Aug 2012 #113

Are you the problem, also, I see, promoting religious bigotry on DU...and maybe else where. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #127

no. i am not. i am consistent. i do not say things like, they let the sexist terms go so i seabeyond Aug 2012 #130

No, she's not part of the problem and she's not promoting any bigotry whatsoever. whathehell Aug 2012 #170

I just read the series of tweets (?) and I will now admit that I would have had no idea pnwmom Aug 2012 #92

generational differences, perhaps? I was certainly familiar with the word as a slur against women, niyad Aug 2012 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author tama Aug 2012 #116

From what I've understood, tama Aug 2012 #117

Tell Skinner. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #105

Thanks for that suggestion...Yes, we will do this. whathehell Aug 2012 #145

To my fellow DUers who post in this group: chknltl Aug 2012 #135

sigh... seabeyond Aug 2012 #148

Thank You For Your Service. chknltl Aug 2012 #152

I may be a guy but before that I am a human being! seabeyond Aug 2012 #160

Thank you so very, very much. whathehell Aug 2012 #159

Stephen Colbert coined the term 'twat' as a form of 'tweet'... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #153

Actually, he said "twatted" and the snickering response makes it's sexist meaning clear. whathehell Aug 2012 #154

i love colbert. he also has no problem at all using sexist terms. seabeyond Aug 2012 #155

I think it's a play on words... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #156

" just using a salty word to get a laugh". absolutely targeting women and purposely sexist by seabeyond Aug 2012 #158

He did use the term...but I don't think his intent was to be sexist... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #161

"no problem at all using sexist terms". i do not imagine he is sexist, either. seabeyond Aug 2012 #165

How does one determine "intent"? whathehell Aug 2012 #178

it's more a matter of "not caring" if they are; seabeyond Aug 2012 #179

Thanks, Seabee whathehell Aug 2012 #180

it was info. put out. messy, too, lol. seabeyond Aug 2012 #181

No, It's definitely getting feedback from me. whathehell Aug 2012 #182

k. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #183

I've served 45 times and though 90% of orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #157

Thanks for that, orpupilofnature57. whathehell Aug 2012 #163

Thanks, that's very kind. orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #164

You're more than welcome, orpupil - I'm just telling the truth as I see it. whathehell Aug 2012 #173

misogyny has always been a staple of DU TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #166

Wow ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #167

vulgar term for a woman�s privates.when ranking crudity and rudeness, twat is not quite as offensive seabeyond Aug 2012 #168

There are people who think "stupid" is a legitimate critique; apparently you don't "get it". Let's patrice Aug 2012 #176

I would vote to hide it. caseymoz Sep 2012 #186

Nice to hear and whathehell Sep 2012 #189