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43. hmmm.

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 12:55 PM

Aug 2012

But I wonder what would be said of men who complained about the use of phrases like "dickhead". Even if they were offended, I'd guess they might not admit it.

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I am floored by the results of the last alert I sent regarding mysogyny...Three out of three thought [View all] whathehell Aug 2012 OP

What kind of dickhead would vote to leave a post like that? Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #1

Dude Lebowski jurists Scootaloo Aug 2012 #2

To be honest, whathehell Aug 2012 #8

They cannot see who altered. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #56

You mean "alerted"? whathehell Aug 2012 #82

Oops! ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #84

I'm on juries once or twice a week. You can't see who alerted. TalkingDog Aug 2012 #125

Great, me too, & I'm willing to accept I might have been wrong regarding visibility of alerters whathehell Aug 2012 #132

You're kind of humorless aren't you? I wasn't being snarky, but if that's how you choose TalkingDog Aug 2012 #149

so, you resort to name calling and personal attacks thru out a post to make your point? seabeyond Aug 2012 #150

No, but it's what stupid guys often say about feminists, lol. whathehell Aug 2012 #151

Tamp down the insults, please... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #174

Blatant troll or blatant full frontal assault of an insult Warpy Aug 2012 #177

I've gotten smacked down like that too, esp. when I alert about posts condoning sexual abuse of LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #81

How many members are on here? caseymoz Sep 2012 #184

"How many members are on here"? whathehell Sep 2012 #187

According to my profile caseymoz Sep 2012 #188

I love your use of "dickhead" to deride someone ok with the use of "twat". bunnies Aug 2012 #25

There is a certain irony there... Perhaps we might likewise avoid male-associated terms, although... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #36

hmmm. bunnies Aug 2012 #43

I don't know... But it seems to be in the wider vernacular of general use. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #48

I think its too late for that. bunnies Aug 2012 #66

Yes, except that the "dominant" group, is less vulnerable to feeling disrespected than the less so. whathehell Aug 2012 #96

Yes. I agree hlthe2b Aug 2012 #100

Yes, thanks. n/t whathehell Aug 2012 #102

Yes, total peckerheads Warpy Aug 2012 #129

You got it. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #138

what garbage. any of my men or boys would be offended. but hey... this is a giggle for men with seabeyond Aug 2012 #147

unfortunately, the results were not in the least surprising. reading further down, it is apparent niyad Aug 2012 #3

That's true. whathehell Aug 2012 #10

this is why i continually challenge this "war" being just on the right. it is not. seabeyond Aug 2012 #41

yes. du has been having a feild day letting the crap stand as they cry OUTRAGE i tell you, over the seabeyond Aug 2012 #40

Some might not actually know what it means. Over a period of time, I've found that a number AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #128

Particularly a problem with humor eridani Aug 2012 #162

Yes... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #4

Wow....I thought the C-word was strictly against the rules. whathehell Aug 2012 #11

They are aware. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #12

Well, why the hell are they not doing anything about it, then?..What is their "rationale" if any? whathehell Aug 2012 #21

There has been a very different climate established in DU3--community standards are more subject hlthe2b Aug 2012 #24

It does seem to be getting VERY nasty here, and not only regading women's issues. whathehell Aug 2012 #27

With the jury system the majority rules. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #29

Very true hlthe2b Aug 2012 #31

Just a few words in the TOS would change everything. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #34

and this was suggest from a huge thread allowing c word in the first days of du. a simple fix. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #46

I'm not sure but I think that is the goal, LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #124

i believe i made a payment to participate in this site. they offered a product seabeyond Aug 2012 #126

I like your spirit! I am just worn down lately LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #144

which was my observation and concern in the "try out" of the new du. i was told to have faith seabeyond Aug 2012 #45

No, it doesn't. caseymoz Sep 2012 #185

DU3 changed from a moderator system to a more fluid jury system to oversee "community standards" hlthe2b Aug 2012 #30

So it seems. whathehell Aug 2012 #142

Let the lowest common denominator ride BanzaiBonnie Aug 2012 #139

Yeah, that will really encourage people to post. whathehell Aug 2012 #140

DU has a zero tolerance policy for some things - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #20

the c-word does not bother me personally, because I have a little routine I use when I am called niyad Aug 2012 #15

correct. i have seen the c word stand 8 times. adms assured us, that it would not be allowed. seabeyond Aug 2012 #42

Lighten up. earthside Aug 2012 #5

earthside, you can certainly disagree as to the impact or intent behind the use of the word... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #7

Thank you. n/t MadrasT Aug 2012 #18

No. MadrasT Aug 2012 #14

Thank you. n/t whathehell Aug 2012 #22

You "lighten up". whathehell Aug 2012 #16

and your cavalier attitude is exactly the kind of thing the OP meant. niyad Aug 2012 #17

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #23

"Lighten up." no. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #47

That post would have been hidden on DU2 by the moderators. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #114

I was on that jury gopiscrap Aug 2012 #6

Perhaps you could post the comments? The OP just got results and was not the first alerter. nt MADem Aug 2012 #9

I said gopiscrap Aug 2012 #68

No, not your comments alone--the entire jury result, with the comments of all the jurors. nt MADem Aug 2012 #75

Let me thank you for that. whathehell Aug 2012 #35

you're welcome gopiscrap Aug 2012 #69

Thanks again. whathehell Aug 2012 #97

thank you. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #49

You're welcome! gopiscrap Aug 2012 #70

I Don't Know How Much This Accounted for the Decision, On the Road Aug 2012 #13

I disagree. If what you are saying is true, why did she say in THIS case it's "appropriate"? whathehell Aug 2012 #19

Why? I Would Assume That It's Because On the Road Aug 2012 #120

You can assume what you will. whathehell Aug 2012 #122

everyone has a reason to dismiss the use of the c word, also. i have heard it repeatedly. thank you seabeyond Aug 2012 #50

I understand your dismay, but isn't this thread a violation of DU rules? Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #26

What rule? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #28

Good point. They used to post rules here. I can no longer find them. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #55

As a co-host of this group, please DO tell me what it is that you find in opposition to the rules. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #32

sort of.... madrchsod Aug 2012 #33

It used to be that you could not start a thread to call out posters or mod/admin decisions. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #57

Do you not visit Meta? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #59

Not until 30 seconds ago. I had no idea it existed. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #61

I can appreciate that... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #64

Thanks. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #71

wtf? yes women, it is offensive now shut the fuck up and let us play. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #51

Not even close to what I said, but do carry on. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #54

i let just about eveything stay on, cause LET IT ROLL OFF YOUR BACKS. pansypoo53219 Aug 2012 #37

Um, some people are more sensitive than your average rock. whathehell Aug 2012 #38

yes... the whole world is letting the misogyny roll off their back. look where it has gotten us. seabeyond Aug 2012 #53

No fucking way. MadrasT Aug 2012 #77

There is nothing inconsistent about both taking a public stand pnwmom Aug 2012 #89

sorry, but it just does not work that way. we have been fighting a battle against the denigration niyad Aug 2012 #107

an all around concerted effort in disrespect and dehumanizing women to an extent that allow repugs seabeyond Aug 2012 #39

I assume you are saying that - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #44

yes. i am saying, since we allow it for women, lets go after blacks and gays. we will NOT allow it seabeyond Aug 2012 #60

Given that I am LGBT I concur that misogyny is a problem in our own community - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #63

that is all i am saying. as i said, my votes against racism or homophobia is consistent with my vote seabeyond Aug 2012 #65

This is something I've heard discussed a lot pnwmom Aug 2012 #87

Your post is off-topic, off-putting and this is horse manure - DURHAM D Aug 2012 #91

You said that misogyny exists among the LGBT community. pnwmom Aug 2012 #95

The misogyny remaining in the LGBT community is DURHAM D Aug 2012 #103

Yup--those males Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #175

Damned right....Katha Politt, who was on "UP" today, said "Misogyny is the whathehell Aug 2012 #98

'Misogyny' is the correct spelling :) tama Aug 2012 #52

No, dear, it's just the latest spelling. whathehell Aug 2012 #94

It's Greek to me tama Aug 2012 #99

That's nice...I'm very impressed, which I'd guess whathehell Aug 2012 #104

Stop being the word police here on DU DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #58

so, you are suggesting we allow the n word and the f word? lets see how that plays out. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #62

I don't give a crap about using the f word, but part of the gopiscrap Aug 2012 #73

fuck? fuck... i use fuck all the time, lol. fuckin do not care a fuck about fuck seabeyond Aug 2012 #74

I am not scared of any words DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #78

That makes no sense when it is "our" side that is doing it. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #86

Well, aren't you big and brave?...On the other hand, you're Male whathehell Aug 2012 #101

"good chance you know NOTHING" a very good chance. almost a certainty. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #108

Thanks. whathehell Aug 2012 #123

and you would be the white male that does not believe in privilege and patriarchy, right? nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #106

Men don't get to tell women what they should not be offended by. MadrasT Aug 2012 #111

Vagina Monologues and cultural differences tama Aug 2012 #115

when sexisim and racism is live and well, it is only giving credit of use to those that seabeyond Aug 2012 #118

In my experience tama Aug 2012 #119

look, it is simple. none of them "hurt" me as an individual. but does as a gender. seabeyond Aug 2012 #121

"language matters. language creates." tama Aug 2012 #136

this is a safe haven group... Telling others to "leave and don't come back" that you disagree with . hlthe2b Aug 2012 #67

You just drove me away from EVER participating in "your" group DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #80

As you wish... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #88

um. you made it damn clear that you had no interest even considering, let alone being won over. seabeyond Aug 2012 #109

No. MadrasT Aug 2012 #79

Stop telling people what to do..Words ARE policed here, duh, as you'll find out quickly if you whathehell Aug 2012 #90

Actually, he's been here since 2008....5 YEARS longer than you. PassingFair Aug 2012 #146

Nope, I've been here since 2008 as well. whathehell Aug 2012 #169

Oops, I meant to type 2003 .... PassingFair Aug 2012 #172

on the other hand, if you don't like bad behaviour being called out, you are also free to leave niyad Aug 2012 #110

Precisely. Bravo! whathehell Aug 2012 #171

It seems to be referring to Cher, not the OP Chemisse Aug 2012 #72

Yes, that's what I mean and it should NOT be accepted, just as other slurs are not. n/t whathehell Aug 2012 #83

I've seen a lot alerts sent about other subjects, especially degrading one's personal religious demosincebirth Aug 2012 #85

How about alerting on slurs on race, ethnicity or sexual orientation? whathehell Aug 2012 #93

let me ask you something:what position do you take when a whole thread is devoted demosincebirth Aug 2012 #131

I most certainly DO step up whathehell Aug 2012 #133

bringing any kinda balance into the religious threads is as combative as going head on in a sexist seabeyond Aug 2012 #134

Yep, in fact I think it may be worse. whathehell Aug 2012 #143

You're agnostic, just think how Catholics/Christians on Du feel stepping into a fray to defend demosincebirth Aug 2012 #137

Believe me, that doesn't help...As I said, most of them whathehell Aug 2012 #141

i have never seen so many adults acquiesce responsibility in creating a world of sexism, seabeyond Aug 2012 #113

Are you the problem, also, I see, promoting religious bigotry on DU...and maybe else where. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #127

no. i am not. i am consistent. i do not say things like, they let the sexist terms go so i seabeyond Aug 2012 #130

No, she's not part of the problem and she's not promoting any bigotry whatsoever. whathehell Aug 2012 #170

I just read the series of tweets (?) and I will now admit that I would have had no idea pnwmom Aug 2012 #92

generational differences, perhaps? I was certainly familiar with the word as a slur against women, niyad Aug 2012 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author tama Aug 2012 #116

From what I've understood, tama Aug 2012 #117

Tell Skinner. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #105

Thanks for that suggestion...Yes, we will do this. whathehell Aug 2012 #145

To my fellow DUers who post in this group: chknltl Aug 2012 #135

sigh... seabeyond Aug 2012 #148

Thank You For Your Service. chknltl Aug 2012 #152

I may be a guy but before that I am a human being! seabeyond Aug 2012 #160

Thank you so very, very much. whathehell Aug 2012 #159

Stephen Colbert coined the term 'twat' as a form of 'tweet'... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #153

Actually, he said "twatted" and the snickering response makes it's sexist meaning clear. whathehell Aug 2012 #154

i love colbert. he also has no problem at all using sexist terms. seabeyond Aug 2012 #155

I think it's a play on words... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #156

" just using a salty word to get a laugh". absolutely targeting women and purposely sexist by seabeyond Aug 2012 #158

He did use the term...but I don't think his intent was to be sexist... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #161

"no problem at all using sexist terms". i do not imagine he is sexist, either. seabeyond Aug 2012 #165

How does one determine "intent"? whathehell Aug 2012 #178

it's more a matter of "not caring" if they are; seabeyond Aug 2012 #179

Thanks, Seabee whathehell Aug 2012 #180

it was info. put out. messy, too, lol. seabeyond Aug 2012 #181

No, It's definitely getting feedback from me. whathehell Aug 2012 #182

k. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #183

I've served 45 times and though 90% of orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #157

Thanks for that, orpupilofnature57. whathehell Aug 2012 #163

Thanks, that's very kind. orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #164

You're more than welcome, orpupil - I'm just telling the truth as I see it. whathehell Aug 2012 #173

misogyny has always been a staple of DU TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #166

Wow ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #167

vulgar term for a woman�s privates.when ranking crudity and rudeness, twat is not quite as offensive seabeyond Aug 2012 #168

There are people who think "stupid" is a legitimate critique; apparently you don't "get it". Let's patrice Aug 2012 #176

I would vote to hide it. caseymoz Sep 2012 #186

Nice to hear and whathehell Sep 2012 #189