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seabeyond

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30. back to the article. i wonder. as a man reading, that the "game", "play" these men and boys

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 01:19 PM

Apr 2012

exhibit, if it hit you how it effects women and girls. not only being a nuisance and rude and ugly, but real stuff. fear. spending hours going out of ones way cause they took a bus the wrong direction. the money she spent because of fear. the real infringement on a woman and girls life, that men do not experience.

that is what hit me. that is why i put the article up. that is why i think all men should read, because i dont think they really think this thru, or feel the very real damage and problem it causes.

so, instead of reasons why boys/men do this (and i get it), what did you pull out from the girl/womans experience.

i always separate woman/girl and boys/men because it matters.

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For those who think I rant about the patriarchy and misogyny too much [View all] seabeyond Apr 2012 OP

Very good. But it makes me sick to read things like that because I've already LiberalLoner Apr 2012 #1

You Can Rant TheMastersNemesis Apr 2012 #2

thank you for your post. seabeyond Apr 2012 #3

Going Back To The Future TheMastersNemesis Apr 2012 #15

"Letting their lies remain even for an instant is damaging. " yes, this is what i see. seabeyond Apr 2012 #28

The problem is WingDinger Apr 2012 #4

Ugh, really? redqueen Apr 2012 #5

Ask any boy. If sociopathy had zero payoff, why would they even try? WingDinger Apr 2012 #6

from day one, i have taught boys to be their better self, in all manners. what a parents job is seabeyond Apr 2012 #7

Not how I grew up. WingDinger Apr 2012 #9

hey... i get it. you are right seabeyond Apr 2012 #11

*sigh* I'm supposed to ask boys for insight? redqueen Apr 2012 #10

nobody says "men like jerks"... they say men like hot women seabeyond Apr 2012 #12

Simple logic destroys that ego-stroking nonsense... redqueen Apr 2012 #20

When things are pervasive, there are questions worth asking. To assume that WingDinger Apr 2012 #23

harks back to ... always, must. spread. seed. EVERYTHING goes to that seabeyond Apr 2012 #26

+1 nt Deep13 Apr 2012 #32

Whether the bullshit is reality or not, it is what boys growing up see. WingDinger Apr 2012 #13

Except you asserted that it WAS reality in your first response to this thread. redqueen Apr 2012 #16

Depending on where you spend your time growing up, it is. WingDinger Apr 2012 #17

I wonder how you would feel, if you didn't date an ex playmate of the year. boston bean Apr 2012 #42

Just like most of the time. WingDinger Apr 2012 #48

You opened that line of conversation by mentioning your inability to get as much "ACTION" redqueen Apr 2012 #52

one of the many conversations with son recently. society is so conditioning girls, like never before seabeyond Apr 2012 #45

Was right with you MadrasT Apr 2012 #8

I hope that 'attack you with my comments' wasn't a reference to my post. redqueen Apr 2012 #14

When you characterize men being honest as idiocy, and bunk, do you elevate discussion? WingDinger Apr 2012 #18

Sorry, but the "women like assholes" canard is not "men being honest"... it's a canard. redqueen Apr 2012 #19

Do you even get that I am on your side? WingDinger Apr 2012 #21

I get that you're trying to help. redqueen Apr 2012 #22

You dont get my hackles up, or chase me away. I like you. WingDinger Apr 2012 #24

. seabeyond Apr 2012 #29

back to the article. i wonder. as a man reading, that the "game", "play" these men and boys seabeyond Apr 2012 #30

Truthfully, I dont see how girls/women TRUST enough to date. WingDinger Apr 2012 #31

i will say.... seabeyond Apr 2012 #35

Courageous honest women like you is how we advance. WingDinger Apr 2012 #36

Some courageous and honest men would be very helpful, too. boston bean Apr 2012 #41

isnt that always the way..... i read a thead in GD seabeyond Apr 2012 #43

Far from it. We need to TEACH boys proper gender ettiquitte. WingDinger Apr 2012 #49

lol. uh huh. gosh how there is a wave to shut us up. seabeyond Apr 2012 #44

You say, "'Yes, but...' is ALWAYS the wrong answer to misogyny." My answer is "Yes, but...." Jim Lane Apr 2012 #54

i like this seabeyond Apr 2012 #55

The "Yes, but..." I was referring to was not all inclusive. redqueen Apr 2012 #59

Hi redqueen MadrasT Apr 2012 #51

Thanks. redqueen Apr 2012 #53

why? seabeyond Apr 2012 #56

Short answer MadrasT Apr 2012 #64

Thanks seabeyond Apr 2012 #65

No problem MadrasT Apr 2012 #66

good for you. that is so very healthy seabeyond Apr 2012 #68

This is the kind of disruptive shit that shouldn't be allowed here. BlueIris Apr 2012 #25

Figuring all this out in a vacuum, hasnt worked, has it? WingDinger Apr 2012 #27

This group is supposed to be a supportive environment BlueIris Apr 2012 #33

If by supportive, you mean accepting bogus depictions of the way things are, that is NOT supportive, WingDinger Apr 2012 #34

Hi wingdinger, boston bean Apr 2012 #37

I was originally caught by the latest thingie. Sorry. WingDinger Apr 2012 #39

I never "got" you before. boston bean Apr 2012 #40

Perusing latest, gets me into a protected group. Not YOU. WingDinger Apr 2012 #46

Oh, I get it. boston bean Apr 2012 #47

Agreed. n/t JTFrog Apr 2012 #67

Rant on felix_numinous Apr 2012 #38

excellent post. i expected someone to have replied seabeyond Apr 2012 #58

Wow. MuseRider Apr 2012 #50

funniest story... i asked hubby tonight if he wanted to drive seabeyond Apr 2012 #57

In my house it did not matter that I got straight A's MuseRider Apr 2012 #60

just wow to your post. just wow. go kick some ass, woman seabeyond Apr 2012 #61

It was an interesting thing to do, getting the farm. MuseRider Apr 2012 #62

it is amazing. we were talking a little about that last night, just in buying a car seabeyond Apr 2012 #69

I think you rant about the patriarchy and misogyny just the right amount... Scuba Apr 2012 #63