For those who think I rant about the patriarchy and misogyny too much

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59. The "Yes, but..." I was referring to was not all inclusive.

When someone says "it's bad for men to catcall women" and then someone (usually a man) shows up saying something like "Yes, but some women like it" that is just completely wrong. There are no two ways about it.

It's a shame that anyone would fly to the opposite end of the spectrum and think that whatever ridiculousness made sense somehow, but that's neither here nor there. The opposite of rude communication isn't the absence of any communication. That seems fairly obvious to me, anyway. Nevertheless the anecdotal experiences of men who aren't described by this OP aren't material to this conversation. Nobody ever asserted all men are like the ones in the OP. I doubt anyone needs to be convinced that not all men are pigs.

The 'throw out the misogyny but keep the self confidence and ...' is a strawman. No one ever said "men must not be confident or willing to take risks!"

The men in the OP are not 'self confident and willing to take risks' they are acting like thoughtless, privileged assholes... and I take offense to the conflation of self confidence with privileged, asshole behavior.