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seabeyond

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13. re re: lol

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:17 AM

Oct 2012

i am not about arguing either. if you are referring to my comments at the beginning of the post, it was thinking about and responding to this, hlthe2b.

Had she slapped him or tried to pull away and he had failed to break the hold, the kiss, I would totally agree with you.

i know you meant nothing by it. but, when reading that, it reminded me of some of the issues today. it really had nothing to do with the kiss. but, it did bring up another issue, that we are experiencing today.

i was not taking the kiss to rape.

i cannot force others to believe i was not, i can just say it out loud, and hope that people get it. if they read that post.

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Is This Famous Photo Fueling Rape Culture? [View all] redqueen Oct 2012 OP

re: hlthe2b Oct 2012 #1

The sailor was drunk and thought she was a nurse. redqueen Oct 2012 #2

Context is being ignored in that assessment. hlthe2b Oct 2012 #3

this is where i sit with that. having to show signs of struggle, is the issue we are having today seabeyond Oct 2012 #4

She said it was very fast, yes. redqueen Oct 2012 #5

As I said, if it had occurred in any other setting but one so unprecedented, I'd agree hlthe2b Oct 2012 #6

let's PLEASE not conflate an unexpected and impulsive quick kiss with rape. seabeyond Oct 2012 #10

re: hlthe2b Oct 2012 #12

re re: lol seabeyond Oct 2012 #13

Thanks for that explanation.. hlthe2b Oct 2012 #15

"thinking aloud" seabeyond Oct 2012 #16

... hlthe2b Oct 2012 #17

ha seabeyond Oct 2012 #18

i do not know why a conversation about this, and an understanding that seabeyond Oct 2012 #7

I find your last paragraph hlthe2b Oct 2012 #8

thank you. i will clarify. the wonderful thing about du3, we can edit.... and often. seabeyond Oct 2012 #11

Exactly, it's not the end of the world... redqueen Oct 2012 #9

I suppose because it's a cherished icon seabeyond Oct 2012 #14

Was there malicious intent in this man's action? Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #19

how could there be malicious intent if men had the right to a woman and a woman was to submit? seabeyond Oct 2012 #20

that was then. this is now. If she was not offended why should I be now some 50 odd years later. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #21

but, this is interesting. i dont know that anyone is "offended". seabeyond Oct 2012 #22

ok then, let me just answer the question from the OP. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #23

another interesting. redqueen agrees with you. i had to go back and see seabeyond Oct 2012 #24

It is perhaps ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #25

What really amazes me are so many of the reactions to anyone who dares to discuss it. redqueen Oct 2012 #26

You know on second thought ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #27

And that *is* rape culture. seabeyond Oct 2012 #28

I agree the question is wrong.. Kalidurga Oct 2012 #29

"Now we can at least ask that question" that does not seem to be correct and i am curious seabeyond Oct 2012 #30

I didn't say it would be without consequence or blow back. Kalidurga Oct 2012 #31

There an interesting dynamic ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #32

Colletive wailing against the idea that this was a boundary violation and is not OK MadrasT Oct 2012 #33

and this is 2012. we are talking. i am truly amazed at the blatant misrepresentation of what is seabeyond Oct 2012 #34