History of Feminism

DURHAM D

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5. The solution is simple.

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:42 PM

Nov 2012

The owners of DU have clearly stated a zero tolerance for homophobic, transphobic and racist posts. It is in the TOS.

No such protection has been stated regarding sexism and misogyny. They decided to leave it up to "community standards", otherwise known as juries. An Alerter can not point to sexist tripe as a violation of the TOS thus feminists and their allies are left to deal with each and every problem post as if we are trying to write a new law, to always start from scratch. We are left to begging an abuser in a proper polite and acceptable way to please stop abusing us. So the burden is on the victims at DU to beg for mercy as we have no rights under the current structure.

As all good progressives and liberals know, when minority rights are left up to a general vote they lose. It only takes 3 jury members to leave an offensive post and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it and the posters that constantly post such offensive materials know that nothing will happen to them.

The only way to fix the problem is for the owners to write some new language.

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Is it time for a Feminist Manifesto for DU? [View all] CTyankee Nov 2012 OP

What would it add to the discussion how would it help things? ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #1

But I wonder if leaving it to individual posts to clarify what feminism is, is a clumsy way of CTyankee Nov 2012 #2

If you keep them to a small number and high level...maybe ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #3

did you mean "their creation could be very DEVISIVE?" CTyankee Nov 2012 #8

I think you have a swell idea. boston bean Nov 2012 #4

It does not matter if the three men who own DU don't care. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #6

The solution is simple. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #5

It is never a bad thing for oppressed groups to write/issue a manifesto. CTyankee Nov 2012 #9

Douglas was working within a democratic frame. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #12

But Douglas was a black man whose race had been enslaved in the South. CTyankee Nov 2012 #13

Bingo TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #39

I think it's well worth exploring.... Little Star Nov 2012 #7

sadly DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #10

Yes, so true. We keep saying it over and over in each and every post of sexism. We need some CTyankee Nov 2012 #11

We live in a patriarchy ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #15

hint of caution though DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #16

Can you give me an example of what that "sexist in and of itself" would look like? I need CTyankee Nov 2012 #17

Gladly DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #19

I don't remember the racist stuff but I do remember the Hillary/sexist stuff and as it turned out CTyankee Nov 2012 #20

The point was DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #22

Yes, I agree. But it was used by some pretty fishy types who suddenly showed up on DU. CTyankee Nov 2012 #23

Oh, I can agree on that point DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #24

Well, apart from the unique Hillary thing in 04 where there was basically some mischief afoot CTyankee Nov 2012 #25

There was waaay to much sexist crap about Hill and Palin up in here though bettyellen Nov 2012 #27

I can agree DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #28

Stupid is gender neutral, and a fitting critique of Palin..... bettyellen Nov 2012 #32

I see that DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #36

Yep. It's about not sinking to that level, and creating a more level playing field. bettyellen Dec 2012 #37

Contacting the other feminist groups would be helpful ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #14

It looks like you have a good basis with your post! CTyankee Nov 2012 #18

It's a good idea ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #21

I think equal opportunity sexism should be noted in the manifesto as well Hatchling Dec 2012 #48

Wow, what an eloquent beginning Tumbulu Dec 2012 #38

I continue to encounter women who say things like, "You know, I understand the need for patrice Nov 2012 #26

Humanist is fine. Everybody is human, after all and I have already made a case for Feminism CTyankee Nov 2012 #29

Humanist is certainly one term I'd very much like to re-claim and it certainly at least implies the patrice Nov 2012 #30

Good questions. This is a diversity argument, no? CTyankee Nov 2012 #31

Probably more diversity : similarity, just riffing again on process . . . link: patrice Dec 2012 #34

Most gendered behavior is socialized ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #33

I'm comfortable with this. It's been a while since I looked into the research very deeply, but patrice Dec 2012 #35

Check out sciencedaily ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #43

Thank you for this, but I must go do my budget, so I will look at it later & get back to us ... patrice Dec 2012 #45

Thank you ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #47

Something needs to be done. pecwae Dec 2012 #40

K & R Care Acutely Dec 2012 #41

i am kickin this to get back to it later. i have been so busy in meta and GD i have not been seabeyond Dec 2012 #42

I would like it to be simple and precise. redqueen Dec 2012 #44

Yes, we need to discuss what we would want the statement to encompass. CTyankee Dec 2012 #46