History of Feminism

patrice

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26. I continue to encounter women who say things like, "You know, I understand the need for

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:05 PM

Nov 2012

something like feminism, but I'm not sure I can equate myself with what is called feminism ..." and what follows usually includes characterizations that include references to "man-hating" and one-ups-MANship and losing cerrtain badges of womanhood etc. etc. I know that those things may be their mis-perceptions, or they may also be accurate depending upon what their personal experiences are, I'm just telling you that I think there's definitely some confusion and perhaps even fundamental evolution in our involvement in feminist issues.

Was having a beer last night, after a meeting and listened to someone say how she is not sure that she wants/likes that label "feminist" and "feminism" and she was wondering if there should be a different name. I don't know the answer to that question, but somekind of collective discovery, a manifesto if you like, might be good for the whole process.

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Is it time for a Feminist Manifesto for DU? [View all] CTyankee Nov 2012 OP

What would it add to the discussion how would it help things? ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #1

But I wonder if leaving it to individual posts to clarify what feminism is, is a clumsy way of CTyankee Nov 2012 #2

If you keep them to a small number and high level...maybe ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #3

did you mean "their creation could be very DEVISIVE?" CTyankee Nov 2012 #8

I think you have a swell idea. boston bean Nov 2012 #4

It does not matter if the three men who own DU don't care. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #6

The solution is simple. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #5

It is never a bad thing for oppressed groups to write/issue a manifesto. CTyankee Nov 2012 #9

Douglas was working within a democratic frame. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #12

But Douglas was a black man whose race had been enslaved in the South. CTyankee Nov 2012 #13

Bingo TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #39

I think it's well worth exploring.... Little Star Nov 2012 #7

sadly DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #10

Yes, so true. We keep saying it over and over in each and every post of sexism. We need some CTyankee Nov 2012 #11

We live in a patriarchy ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #15

hint of caution though DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #16

Can you give me an example of what that "sexist in and of itself" would look like? I need CTyankee Nov 2012 #17

Gladly DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #19

I don't remember the racist stuff but I do remember the Hillary/sexist stuff and as it turned out CTyankee Nov 2012 #20

The point was DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #22

Yes, I agree. But it was used by some pretty fishy types who suddenly showed up on DU. CTyankee Nov 2012 #23

Oh, I can agree on that point DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #24

Well, apart from the unique Hillary thing in 04 where there was basically some mischief afoot CTyankee Nov 2012 #25

There was waaay to much sexist crap about Hill and Palin up in here though bettyellen Nov 2012 #27

I can agree DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #28

Stupid is gender neutral, and a fitting critique of Palin..... bettyellen Nov 2012 #32

I see that DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #36

Yep. It's about not sinking to that level, and creating a more level playing field. bettyellen Dec 2012 #37

Contacting the other feminist groups would be helpful ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #14

It looks like you have a good basis with your post! CTyankee Nov 2012 #18

It's a good idea ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #21

I think equal opportunity sexism should be noted in the manifesto as well Hatchling Dec 2012 #48

Wow, what an eloquent beginning Tumbulu Dec 2012 #38

I continue to encounter women who say things like, "You know, I understand the need for patrice Nov 2012 #26

Humanist is fine. Everybody is human, after all and I have already made a case for Feminism CTyankee Nov 2012 #29

Humanist is certainly one term I'd very much like to re-claim and it certainly at least implies the patrice Nov 2012 #30

Good questions. This is a diversity argument, no? CTyankee Nov 2012 #31

Probably more diversity : similarity, just riffing again on process . . . link: patrice Dec 2012 #34

Most gendered behavior is socialized ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #33

I'm comfortable with this. It's been a while since I looked into the research very deeply, but patrice Dec 2012 #35

Check out sciencedaily ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #43

Thank you for this, but I must go do my budget, so I will look at it later & get back to us ... patrice Dec 2012 #45

Thank you ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #47

Something needs to be done. pecwae Dec 2012 #40

K & R Care Acutely Dec 2012 #41

i am kickin this to get back to it later. i have been so busy in meta and GD i have not been seabeyond Dec 2012 #42

I would like it to be simple and precise. redqueen Dec 2012 #44

Yes, we need to discuss what we would want the statement to encompass. CTyankee Dec 2012 #46