History of Feminism

iverglas

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3. I just don't read it the same way

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:49 AM

Apr 2012

Doing something insistently is doing it constantly/exclusively, and that's part of the way I took it. Insisting on doing something is also making a point of doing something, and I know that's sure how I saw Ellen deGeneres's trouser wardrobe. She didn't just go to the store and buy some jeans or sweatpants; she had pants made (I assume) on a male garment template, cut to accomodate the male physique, and I thought they looked sufficiently ridiculous that there had to be a statement being made.

Maybe Maddow does just wear jeans and Tshirts; like I said, I've seen her once or twice maybe but I don't know anything about her. But still ... I dunno, some off the cuff remarks are just off the cuff remarks.

I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong, I hasten to say. I just saw it differently.

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Seen on DU [View all] boston bean Apr 2012 OP

I read the original and the discussion iverglas Apr 2012 #1

This part boston bean Apr 2012 #2

I just don't read it the same way iverglas Apr 2012 #3

After re-reading it a few times boston bean Apr 2012 #4

can't resist iverglas Apr 2012 #5

Nope, still not there, iverglas. boston bean Apr 2012 #6

how many threads have there been at this place iverglas Apr 2012 #7

There has always been a double standard on DU. boston bean Apr 2012 #9

There is a double standard throughout society. redqueen Apr 2012 #14

First, let's look at how boys dress. Do they dress, as does Rachel, in a low cut jacket Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #12

hm iverglas Apr 2012 #15

So, you are saying that when a youth hockey team in Alberta puts on their street Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #16

I tell ya what iverglas Apr 2012 #18

What did BlueNorthwest say that boston bean Apr 2012 #20

one does not enter a conversation that is underway iverglas Apr 2012 #21

ah, ok. boston bean Apr 2012 #22

a guide iverglas Apr 2012 #25

One also doesn't tell someone they're spewing shit... Violet_Crumble Apr 2012 #42

there is indeed a lot of stuff at DU iverglas Apr 2012 #46

this is what I'm talking about iverglas Apr 2012 #24

Here was what pissed me off about the post: CrispyQ Apr 2012 #35

+1 Little Star Apr 2012 #37

the poster that started that thread has a history with women seabeyond Apr 2012 #17

The OP we are discussing pissed me off royally. Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #19

he said stupid all over the place. and how many of us have had men tell us we should dress like a seabeyond Apr 2012 #23

+1000000 redqueen Apr 2012 #34

Her current look suits her far better, IMO n/t eridani Apr 2012 #43

"Like a boy" depends on how you are built eridani Apr 2012 #44

in fact, pants tailored for men fit me better iverglas Apr 2012 #45

I've never quite gotten the "statement" business eridani Apr 2012 #48

I found that OP very offensive for more than one reason. n/t Little Star Apr 2012 #8

well ... iverglas Apr 2012 #10

The first thing that struck me was... Little Star Apr 2012 #11

Androids the prostitutes of the future? seabeyond Apr 2012 #13

It really says something to say that johns would be just as happy fucking an inanimate object. laconicsax Apr 2012 #26

good point, lol. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #28

There are some people MadrasT Apr 2012 #27

i really dont care. this is really one of those situations where seabeyond Apr 2012 #29

Oh, yes. I understand that. MadrasT Apr 2012 #30

I agree that it is a pathetic and insulting characterization. seabeyond Apr 2012 #31

Well, from a certain standpoint, sex is icky. laconicsax Apr 2012 #32

no its snot... lol. hey, seabeyond Apr 2012 #33

i just get really sick of being "expected to care" if a man (or a woman) thinks someone is hot Scout Apr 2012 #36

"i really really really don't care who "you" want to fuck! honest!" LOL, well put. Little Star Apr 2012 #38

Yes, it is a headscratcher for me too. n/t MadrasT Apr 2012 #40

It's one thing to say someone looks nice ... redqueen Apr 2012 #41

I've got a better one iverglas Apr 2012 #39

A tiny bit off-topic, but relevant as it pertains to the pro-patriarchy crowd... laconicsax Apr 2012 #47

"Michelle Obama looks stunning...edited to add more pics" iverglas Apr 2012 #49

the essense of what we have been talking. "hot". "hot" implies fuckable seabeyond Apr 2012 #50

I'm seeing a distinction without a difference iverglas Apr 2012 #51

i can't go with your comment that michelle is dismissed for what she is accomplishing as her role seabeyond Apr 2012 #52

sorry, but I didn't say she is "dismissed" iverglas Apr 2012 #54

i think in your comment, you dismiss what she is doing. and whether paid or not, seabeyond Apr 2012 #56

I don't see a difference either. MadrasT Apr 2012 #53

bingo iverglas Apr 2012 #55

"'Girls' has never been and will never be offensive. redqueen May 2012 #57

wtf? some man telling women how they are suppose to feel and think? seabeyond May 2012 #58

Didn't we agree long ago to stop feigning surprise at these things? redqueen May 2012 #59

bah hahahaha seabeyond May 2012 #60

That one is a piece of work. MadrasT May 2012 #61

You ain't kiddin! redqueen May 2012 #62

that one has come under discussion on MIR team lately.... n/t Scout May 2012 #63

as he should. nt seabeyond May 2012 #64

Seen on DU MadrasT May 2012 #65

no. it is not much of an insult. and clear their misogyny in use. one way or another men attack seabeyond May 2012 #66

how many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb? iverglas May 2012 #67

Oh, that's good! redqueen May 2012 #68

Took me a minute. MadrasT May 2012 #69

Feminists here are calling all men rapists or child molesters. BlueIris May 2012 #70

oh, man... so very stupid and having to do a lot of twisting and turning seabeyond May 2012 #71

That makes me wonder... laconicsax May 2012 #72

Given that even the relatively innocuous term 'mansplain', despite not being used hardly ever on DU, redqueen May 2012 #73

Careful now... laconicsax May 2012 #74

Oh yes, too true, how could I be so callous... redqueen May 2012 #75

well peoples, i think i am about done on du, but this group seabeyond May 2012 #76

Take a break, sea. MadrasT May 2012 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen May 2012 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2012 #79

time for another break from du redqueen May 2012 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2012 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2012 #82

There is no patriarchy. MadrasT Jul 2012 #83

yup... seabeyond Jul 2012 #84

I think most on DU would be offended by this opinion on a progressive site. boston bean Jul 2012 #85

the reality seabeyond Jul 2012 #86