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24. this is what I'm talking about

In the women's fashion world, it's called the "menswear" look. It comes and goes.



It is distinguished by a combination of at least some of several features: fabric (often tending to pinstripe or grey flannel), jackets, and specifically jackets cut a particular way (long, lapels, low-buttoned), button-up shirts, and of course trousers (although a collection will usually include skirts). A particular ensemble won't likely have all of them, or it would just be "men's clothing". The jacket will have a camisole underneath, the shirt will be worn without a jacket, etc. It can be "feminized" with accessories -- high heels, for instance; or played up with accessories -- a fedora or wingtips. But it is recognizably "menswear", and that's what it is called in the women's fashion world.

Obviously, very short hair suits the look.

While a woman who is a slave to fashion may buy some outfits in this style whenever the trend rolls around, not many women dress like this consistently during a season, let alone year-round or year after year. Mot women wear a variety of things, whether they are dressing for success or dressing like a slob. Different colours. At least the occasional skirt. Different styles of top -- pullover, shirt, blouse, tank, T. Different styles of jacket, if it's part of their standard wardrobe -- collarless, double-breasted, short and boxy, long and loose, etc. I doubt that any of us knows a woman who wears the same style, let alone same basic outfit, day after day. Hilary Clinton.

From what I can tell by googling images, Maddow does.

Two years ago:



Note: menswear style jacket: lapels, low-buttoned, pinstripes; men's-cut trousers (women's trousers just aren't cut like that across the lower abdomen/crotch)

Last month:



Again: standard menswear style jacket: tweed, basic lapel/button arrangement



Same cut jacket, this time in chalk stripe.

Compare and contrast:


or http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Emporio+Armani+Milan+Fashion+Week+Menswear+Mjy2yc1RRrgl.jpg

Come on. It's menswear.

And I can see somebody calling it "dressing like a boy" rather than "like a man" because she insists (yes) on the sneakers, and it has that insouciance thing about it.

It's her image. She has carefully crafted it and she cultivates it. What, is nobody supposed to notice?

And she evidently lost weight. Was nobody supposed to notice that either? If not, why would she have bothered? I haven't seen anything to suggest she was actually overweight.

I know precisely zero about the poster in question. I just read him saying he thought she was hot as wow, she must be like super-hot, because I'm straight and she's a lesbian and I still think she's hot. Which, again, suggests to me that he's reading her for the articles.

But that's all at face value, and I know as well as anyone that sometimes things aren't what they seem on the surface. I just don't know that I'd have been as quick to look for something underneath, is pretty much all.