OK, seriously. I've seen this Liquid Plumber ad THREE TIMES and it is INCREASINGLY pissing me off.

[MadrasT]

75. Just this morning

I was talking to a man who was reporting how he was out "on the town" with two male friends last night.

The ratio of women to men was about 3 to 1.

He said most of the women were dressed very "sexy", yet he and his friends were confused because it didn't seem like most of the women were interested in making any kind of connection with men. They were just out on the town having fun.

I said y'all just ran into the whole point of slutwalks. How women dress is not a communication of sexual availability or desire to "hook up". And that women, in general, are not walking around continually thinking about how to "get with" men.

I am not equating how these 3 guys thought to be how "all men think", but it was interesting.

They truly believe women dress "sexy" because they want to hook up, or maybe more like, that women shouldn't dress sexy if they don't want to hook up because it sends the wrong message.

They made it the women's fault for miscommunicating their intentions by dressing wrong.

I suggested maybe they needed to alter their assumptions about women's clothing choices.

Then I said, "Yeah, you know, that's exactly how men justify rape, too. She was dressed that way so she was asking for it." Of course, he was quick to condemn that blame the victim bullshit, but he had a hard time seeing the correlation.

They heard what I was saying, I heard what they were saying, but it just underscores the problem and how complicated it is. No one can deny that many people choose clothing, etc., to make a personal statement. But they all equate "woman in sexy clothes" with "she wants sex" to the point where it causes confusion when it doesn't work out that way.

These 3 men are all progressive liberals.

It was an interesting conversation.