History of Feminism

One_Life_To_Give

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53. Self Censoring

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:03 PM

Mar 2013

Yes Rosie as a NFL Star has the cred to be able to do needlepoint without having his "Man Card" confiscated. And has been trying to help men and boys realize that it's not only a feminine/queer pursuit.

John Wayne is a Hollywood creation. A manufactured macho image, something little boys learned we had to emulate. As I recall major crimes against boyhood included not knowing who Luis Tiant, Bob Griese or Carl Yastremski were or liking Little House on the Prairie. Admiring the dancing of Bob Hope and James Cagney in 7 Little Foys, and Musical Theater in general was enough to put one foot on a Banana Peal. I also was fortunate enough to have experienced the freedom of 70's fashion before the anti-gay backlash prescribed that we all dress like Clint Eastwood in a western. And skip any dance music because that would also imply you weren't man enough. Beer OK, mixed drink better be something manly etc.

And even in middle age. Wonder what the bosses learning of too many un-masculine things might start to think and how that could affect the career. Maybe I can just say I watch Project Runway with the Wife.

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Mocking Men With Femininity [View all] seabeyond Mar 2013 OP

k and r and thank you niyad Mar 2013 #1

isn't even talking about the pink ribbon crap, seabeyond Mar 2013 #2

pink is for flowers, period. niyad Mar 2013 #6

people keep suggesting seabeyond Mar 2013 #7

it is okay for women who like the colour (and look good wearing it)--that is just my preference. niyad Mar 2013 #12

I remember her and her book.The sufrommich Mar 2013 #11

you have it absolutely correct. I had friends who knew anita--not exactly the image most niyad Mar 2013 #13

I don't remember the comment, but sufrommich Mar 2013 #14

I actually do get a little "outraged" MadrasT Mar 2013 #18

you are right. it really has gotten so bad. you would think seabeyond Mar 2013 #38

I realized that when shopping for my yet to be born nephew BainsBane Mar 2013 #31

yup. gotta a package of blue and pink. he really looked good in that pink sleeper seabeyond Mar 2013 #39

Get this, sea... I have a blue collar and red leash/red training halter on my new female pup... hlthe2b Mar 2013 #64

omFg, that is absolutely hillarious. after my mouth dropped seabeyond Mar 2013 #65

Oh, let me link to the post I made in PETS hlthe2b Mar 2013 #66

Femininity is often used against men in our culture. That is harmful to... Little Star Mar 2013 #3

it is what sets men apart, actually give them the privilege and entitlement. seabeyond Mar 2013 #8

Good thread! Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #4

that is one academic family you have there. seabeyond Mar 2013 #9

me too BainsBane Mar 2013 #32

Excellent OP Sea. k&r. sufrommich Mar 2013 #5

thank you. a little .... light and easy. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #10

Gays, we're told, hate women; straight men hate them more, seems to me, closeupready Mar 2013 #15

Guess I'm behind the times IrishAyes Mar 2013 #22

I think you just might be extraordinary! swimboy Mar 2013 #24

i am with irish, i do not see it. actually i was going to say i do not hear that either, but seabeyond Mar 2013 #40

It makes sense to me you had fun in SF - you are brilliant, closeupready Mar 2013 #51

ya. in RL seabeyond Mar 2013 #63

Dear heart, IrishAyes Mar 2013 #59

A few years ago there was a sketch on one of the late night comedy shows geek tragedy Mar 2013 #16

If it's any comfort, IrishAyes Mar 2013 #21

Oh, I know any of them could kick my rear end. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #30

Of course IrishAyes Mar 2013 #36

Short fellows are the most dangerous kind to scrap with. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #37

Hardly! IrishAyes Mar 2013 #55

They're sometimes the aggressors before the fight is joined, but geek tragedy Mar 2013 #56

There's really no distinction, though IrishAyes Mar 2013 #58

Certainly. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #61

welcome to du irishayes. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #41

This sort of thing ticks me off more than just about anything else. wryter2000 Mar 2013 #17

"back to the pink ghetto" MadrasT Mar 2013 #19

Feel free wryter2000 Mar 2013 #26

Yep. It's a twofer! Little Star Mar 2013 #28

now we're back to the pink ghetto. seabeyond Mar 2013 #43

Best explanation IrishAyes Mar 2013 #60

Rosy Grier IrishAyes Mar 2013 #57

Short and to the point salib Mar 2013 #20

you are welcome. easy and fun. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #44

Woman get marginalized with the same "you look like a guy" crap toby jo Mar 2013 #23

Yup. MadrasT Mar 2013 #25

there is a significant difference that cannot be lost in the sameness. one creates hate toward a seabeyond Mar 2013 #45

Thanks for posting One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #27

+1 Little Star Mar 2013 #29

i see a rosey griers football player. seabeyond Mar 2013 #46

Self Censoring One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #53

thank you for explaining. as you see, seabeyond Mar 2013 #54

The graphics are mercuryblues Mar 2013 #33

I could perhaps see MyshkinCommaPrince Mar 2013 #34

this post you gotta explain to me. you mean put a graphic up that he skates like a girl is ok, seabeyond Mar 2013 #48

This bothers me a lot as well. Bonobo Mar 2013 #35

It bothers feminists too. redqueen Mar 2013 #42

Well in this case it did not come across to me that way. Bonobo Mar 2013 #47

we do not put down masculinity out of hand. we do challenge the societal and cultural seabeyond Mar 2013 #50

it is as much as a mans issue as women and i am glad you see it. BUT.... society reducing seabeyond Mar 2013 #49

I'm glad you said this, and recognized the barriers closeupready Mar 2013 #52

Also, the "be stoic and unemotional" crap that is pushed on men constantly. Dash87 Mar 2013 #67

Thank you everyone IrishAyes Mar 2013 #62