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BainsBane

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16. I wanted to ask about

Reply to wildflower (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:22 PM

Mar 2013

the people who refuse to become educated and are annoyed that anyone even tries.

Thanks for your solidarity.

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"bigotry based on gender" what does this mean? [View all] Whisp Mar 2013 OP

I agree with you. redqueen Mar 2013 #1

clueless here... DURHAM D Mar 2013 #2

TOS has bogotry of gender. not sexism seabeyond Mar 2013 #24

Hi sea - My comment was meant to convey DURHAM D Mar 2013 #37

lol. it was very late. and i was on my little fire. seabeyond Mar 2013 #39

you want I should kick your clueless ass, DURHAM D? Skittles Mar 2013 #29

Hey skit - DURHAM D Mar 2013 #38

It means BainsBane Mar 2013 #3

It is the " both sides do it" schtick. sufrommich Mar 2013 #4

thanks, sufrommich Whisp Mar 2013 #5

Good,we can't afford to be intimidated. sufrommich Mar 2013 #6

Another interesting response BainsBane Mar 2013 #7

Now I feel constipated. Whisp Mar 2013 #8

"Alas, I'm a tainted woman" sufrommich Mar 2013 #9

Yes, a scarlet . . . BainsBane Mar 2013 #11

ha ha. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #26

good to hear, whisp. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #25

I would have gotten around to raising the issues in my ATA posts eventually - Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #21

the message was clear BainsBane Mar 2013 #22

You're welcome. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #34

it was good reading your post also. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #27

Thanks. Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #35

ya. seabeyond Mar 2013 #40

Your ability to communicate our concerns sufrommich Mar 2013 #32

Thank - Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #33

IMO, that is a statement MadrasT Mar 2013 #10

Yes indeed. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #13

I just went and read the whole thing ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #12

did you notice the high fives? BainsBane Mar 2013 #14

I'm dismayed by that too wildflower Mar 2013 #15

I wanted to ask about BainsBane Mar 2013 #16

Oh, you mean the "How dare you tell me what to think" folks? MadrasT Mar 2013 #17

I've even heard them specifically say BainsBane Mar 2013 #18

Yup. MadrasT Mar 2013 #19

that is the real bother. skinner insists we speak up and educate. then we are beat up for botherin seabeyond Mar 2013 #28

I agree, in principle, that education is the best tool - Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #30

I saw your ATA OP and thought this is really GREAT... DURHAM D Mar 2013 #36

Thanks. Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #43

and this is another point. i get so many comments, pms telling me thanks for speaking out seabeyond Mar 2013 #41

Yes ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #20

that is exsctly what it is saying. nullifying the issue of misogyny. we are all in the same boat. seabeyond Mar 2013 #23

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guys being guys, that is all. why are you wanting to ruin their fun. seabeyond Mar 2013 #42

sorry JT. feminism forum is monitored heavily and alerted on often.... anything said, copied and seabeyond Mar 2013 #55

How on earth could that have been hidden? BainsBane Mar 2013 #61

probably every post on this thread has been alerted on. inevitable a jury is gonna get a hide, with seabeyond Mar 2013 #62

some people BainsBane Mar 2013 #65

Exactly and to help prove your point that every DURHAM D Mar 2013 #68

amazing, isn't it? Whisp Mar 2013 #66

We bring it all on ourselves, really. redqueen Mar 2013 #67

i read today he isnt opposed to sexism/misogyny in the TOS. he doesnt think it will be a magic cure. seabeyond Mar 2013 #44

he might want to try it out anyway, and change the ToS. Whisp Mar 2013 #45

exactly, we can site it BainsBane Mar 2013 #46

I have been waiting for Gormy (don't think she's around yet today) to answer him on that and Little Star Mar 2013 #47

boston bean had an ATA question on that Whisp Mar 2013 #48

I didn't read BB's answer from Skinner as a no.... Little Star Mar 2013 #54

i saw it as vague also. i like skinner also. i see a lot of skinner that has stood with minorities seabeyond Mar 2013 #56

That's why he should be asked to answer if he will... Little Star Mar 2013 #60

The TOS needs to be changed but DURHAM D Mar 2013 #52

noticed and you are right on all the points. also i noticed, with homophobic OPs, seabeyond Mar 2013 #57

I just want to add.... Little Star Mar 2013 #72

i can name three that have walked. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #73

Just so you know - DURHAM D Mar 2013 #75

I agree with every thing you have said in this whole thread. I... Little Star Mar 2013 #77

I have some memories of that battle. Whisp Mar 2013 #76

Well I have an admission of my own about that... Little Star Mar 2013 #79

I was on the wrong side too. Out of plumb ignorance. redqueen Mar 2013 #80

I wasn't involved in that at all. MadrasT Mar 2013 #81

What prompted your change? BainsBane Mar 2013 #82

Short answer: DU feminists. MadrasT Mar 2013 #83

many don't have that capacity for introspection BainsBane Mar 2013 #84

Yep. That was me. MadrasT Mar 2013 #86

I'm not sure if I'm right about this gollygee Mar 2013 #89

I am not sure who said what about what and where and why but DURHAM D Mar 2013 #90

i know that at the beginning i was optimistic. BB i believe, started a thread asking if the TOS seabeyond Mar 2013 #91

Does anyone think the 'just educate them' method will work? redqueen Mar 2013 #49

I'm not sure that can be done now. Whisp Mar 2013 #50

An extra bounce in some steps, yes. Good way of putting it. redqueen Mar 2013 #51

logically then, per skinners comment to educate, our responsibility to "educate" skinner is a must. seabeyond Mar 2013 #59

I like that idea. You be the 'good' educator and I'll be the 'bad' Whisp Mar 2013 #63

ya really think i know how the fuck to play the fuckin' sugar role, lol lol lol seabeyond Mar 2013 #69

It is not DURHAM D Mar 2013 #53

the men that use are educated to the fact what sexist is, how to use it as a weapon against women seabeyond Mar 2013 #58

But FREEEEEEDUMB! redqueen Mar 2013 #64

bottom line. teh stupid. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #71

I've decided to blame it on the teen movies of the 80's ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #88

I do not see it as "all bigotry is the same" but that " all bigotry is bad / wrong" uppityperson Mar 2013 #70

I think boston bean explained it well here: Whisp Mar 2013 #74

^^^^^ Little Star Mar 2013 #78

Once again, all of you women (and our male allies) have my admiration. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #85

Backatcha Sheldon Little Star Mar 2013 #87

I was thinking about all this last night Whisp Mar 2013 #92

I keep trying to think of a way to produce an eloquent response in ATA (or elsewhere) hlthe2b Mar 2013 #93

Those who "don't get it" and "won't get it" are one and the same to me. DURHAM D Mar 2013 #95

Thanks for this post. redqueen Mar 2013 #96

"We don't raise boys to be men. We raise them not to be women, or gay men." seabeyond Mar 2013 #94