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ismnotwasm

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Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:58 PM Apr 2013

Claim: Feminist Catharine MacKinnon said "All sex is rape." [View all]

From snopes.com:


Claim: Feminist Catharine MacKinnon said "All sex is rape."

Status: False.

Origins: Feminist legal theorist and anti-pornography crusader Catharine A. MacKinnon is no stranger to controversy. During her more than twenty-five years in the public eye, she has placed herself at the heart of a number of storms raging through the realm of public opinion. She has asserted that rape laws are written to protect the perpetrators rather than the victims, and that pornography is a violation of civil rights. She is notable for the part she played in bringing about Canada's tougher anti-pornography laws, and in persuading the U.S. Supreme Court to adopt the view that sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination.

MacKinnon is not universally respected or liked, even within the ranks of feminism. Her outspoken nature and strong opinions have created enemies for her, and she has become a convenient target for anyone looking to run down the movement by caricaturing one of its prominent members as a strident harpy who has loudly asserted as fact any number of fool-headed opinions. It is therefore not surprising that she would be tagged with having made a pronouncement such as "All sex is rape," a statement that calls into question the sanity of the person who utters it even as it alienates most everyone who hears it.

MacKinnon never made the statement which has been attributed to her. (The quote she never gave has been variously rendered as "All sex is rape," "All men are rapists," and "All sex is sexual harassment.&quot Critics of MacKinnon's work argue she implies all men are rapists, but the quote given here was created by MacKinnon's opponents, not MacKinnon herself.

MacKinnon was further tied to the quote she did not utter by a March 1999 article by conservative commentator Cal Thomas in which he incorrectly identified her as the author of Professing Feminism and quoted her as saying: "In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Not only is the quote misattributed, but the putative source, Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales From the Strange World of Women's Studies, is a book criticizing the work of MacKinnon and other feminists, written by Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge.


http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp

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having read mackinnon, I know she never said that. but, the mra's, etc., just MUST have targets niyad Apr 2013 #1
I know you don't intend this BainsBane Apr 2013 #2
we have been told by men ALL the feminists, long time ago feminists, who we are not allowed to post seabeyond Apr 2013 #3
I'm with you, agree 100% BainsBane Apr 2013 #4
that is a tough thread of ugly. every poster in there dissing me today, was dissing me yesterday. seabeyond Apr 2013 #5
You are a marvel, Sea BainsBane Apr 2013 #8
I had a thought that I would put Squinch Apr 2013 #27
Yep. I remember hearing the anti-feminist spiel about MacKinnon, repeatedly... redqueen Apr 2013 #9
i read up on her, learned ALL she did/does. i listen to her speak, she was awesome. i felt the fool seabeyond Apr 2013 #10
we have a recent reminder of how many resent anti-discriminatory BainsBane Apr 2013 #13
yes. you did really well addressing that in the gd froum. was it you seabeyond Apr 2013 #14
No, I don't believe that was me BainsBane Apr 2013 #15
"The enemy is sexism, violence against women and misogyny in all of its manifestations." redqueen Apr 2013 #16
and imperialism BainsBane Apr 2013 #18
You mean take the title and then lie about the content? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #6
of course BainsBane Apr 2013 #7
I just posted Dworkin. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #11
LOL BainsBane Apr 2013 #12
A gift for you me lady. Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #19
Sweet! ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #21
I like facts. n/t Flying Squirrel Apr 2013 #17
LOL Cal Thomas has a group of devotees on DU. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #20
Wow, they've been quoting this asshole from an interview in fucking Playboy? redqueen Apr 2013 #24
Cal was so insane that Fox had to dump him DURHAM D Apr 2013 #25
I have to wonder the same thing that I do about republicans... redqueen Apr 2013 #29
She also said this. redqueen Apr 2013 #22
And that is exactly the type of truth ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #23
Yeah, it's only controversial because these issues are rarely examined or discussed. redqueen Apr 2013 #28
Usually an off the wall quote from someone is false... Deep13 Apr 2013 #26
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