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seabeyond

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Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:51 AM Apr 2013

When Men on the Left Refuse to See Their Sexism [View all]




A couple of weeks ago, I came across an article on Vice that was oddly titled, “You’re a Pussy If You Think There’s a War on Men.” It seemed clear that the author, Harry Cheadle, was referring to an awful “reverse sexist” and anti-feminist article about “The War on Men,” which asserts that women are to blame for the “dearth of good men” and must “surrender to their nature” while letting “men surrender to theirs.” Cheadle writes in defense of feminism and exposes the absurdity of claiming that men are “oppressed” by women. While I agree with his arguments that men need to stop blaming and fearing women, the sexist use of the word “pussy” in his title couldn’t be overlooked. After a brief conversation with friends who also found it offensive, I decided to write an e-mail to the author. I expressed overall support for his post and agreed that men need to be held accountable for their sexism, but I also pointed out that using the word “pussy” as a slur to characterize men as “cowardly” and “weak” is still misogynistic because it relies on degrading a woman’s body. It reinforces the sexist logic that being called a woman or, in this case, a body part of a woman, is always negative, demeaning, and shameful. It reminds us that in order for men to feel truly insulted, they must be compared to women because women, as heteropatriarchy teaches us, are weaker and inferior to men. I mentioned in my e-mail that I had no problem with calling men out on their laziness, lack of accountability, and insecurities. However, using the word “pussy” to describe their fear of women is counter-productive and perpetuates sexist attitudes.

Just got an email from someone who A) assumed I was an ally in the “feminist struggle” B)Took issue with my use of the word “pussy” in my article “You’re a Pussy if You Think There’s a War on Men” and C) informed me that “the term is not only misogynistic, but also inaccurate since the vagina is actually quite tough, not weak.” asldkfjalsjf adlsj foiasj doia e

When it was asked on the comment thread about whether or not he identified as an ally, Cheadle responded, “I just hate whiners and knee-jerk anti-feminists. I don’t really feel that I’m a part of the whole feminist enterprise, and I don’t really want to be.”


I share the above as an example of something I want to discuss in a broader context: sexism and misogyny from men in Leftist spaces and their refusal to hold themselves accountable, even when they are called out on it. What does it mean when a man speaks in defense of feminism, but then, after being informed of his sexism, rejects being an ally in order to absolve himself of any accountability? What are the implications for women who self-identify as feminist when men can easily reject feminism or disassociate from it to excuse and normalize their own sexism? In this post, I will discuss how this refusal of accountability contributes to violence against women, beginning with the usage of misogynistic language, then addressing the various manifestations of sexist oppression, and concluding with points on doing work to end this violence.


1. Misogynistic Language

Whether we are men who self-identify as anti-racist, advocate against homophobia, hold leadership positions in radical movements, rightly express outrage against right-wing misogynists and patriarchy at large, write articles that condemn all forms of injustice, or all of the above, none of this gives us a free pass on sexism, including sexist language. Gendered insults like “pussy,” “cunt,” “bitch,” “slut,” “whore,” etc. are so normalized and acceptable that we hear them in classrooms, workplaces, activist groups, and from our friends and colleagues. In mainstream media, the frequent and increased use of the “b” word on prime-time TV shows over the past decade only reinforces this acceptability. Even in popular video games like Batman: Arkham City, women characters like Catwoman and Harley Quinn are repeatedly called the “b” word by both good and bad male characters (and when women gamers address sexism in gaming, many men respond by trivializing the slurs and making misogynistic attacks). The pervasiveness and normalization of misogynistic language is not simply limited to particular movies, games, songs, or novels, but rather reflective of the sexist and patriarchal values that shape society. These sexist values, as bell hooks explains, are “created and sustained by white supremacist capitalist patriarchy.” There is a long violent history of these words being used to shame, exploit, persecute, rape, and murder women, especially women of color, who face racism and misogyny simultaneously.

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2. Men on the Left Perpetuating Sexist Oppression

In addition to misogynistic language, sexual harassment, rape, and the silencing of women is disturbingly common in Leftist spaces. In a hostile white supremacist and heteropatriarchal climate where many women, especially women of color, cannot call the police because they do not want to strengthen the state or be further victimized by it, working collectively against misogyny and gender violence within activist movements is crucial. If a male activist threatens a woman, or follows her home, or sexually harasses her in a meeting or a rally, or tries to silence and shame her, or rapes her, this man must be held accountable. What’s disturbing is how white men and men of color appoint themselves as “leaders” and use their “activist credibility” or “celebrity” status to hide and excuse their own sexism. On one hand, there are male activists who reject feminism, as discussed above, but then there are men who consciously insert themselves into feminist discourse and assert authority over it. Hugo Schwyzer, for instance, persistently defines himself as a “male feminist,” yet doesn’t see the harm he causes when dismissing his history of engaging in sexual relations with students or writing about how he almost murdered his ex-girlfriend and then made himself the “hero” for not following through with it. Angus Johnston of Student Activism describes this crime as an act of gendered violence and explains that “in all his (Schwyzer’s) writing about this act he has never addressed its implications for his feminism — the feminism he professed when he committed the crime, or the feminism he professes today.”

There were men like this in various organizations I worked with. The one who called his girlfriend a bitch in front of a group of youth of color during a summer encuentro we were hosting. The one who sexually harassed a queer Chicana couple during a trip to México, trying to pressure them into a threesome. The guys who said they would complete a task, didn’t do it, brushed off their compañeras’ demands for accountability, let those women take over the task, and when it was finished took all the credit for someone else’s hard work. The graduate student who hit his partner—and everyone knew he’d done it, but whenever anyone asked, people would just look ashamed and embarrassed and mumble, “It’s complicated.” The ones who constantly demeaned queer folks, even people they organized with. Especially the one who thought it would be a revolutionary act to “kill all these faggots, these niggas on the down low, who are fucking up our children, fucking up our homes, fucking up our world, and fucking up our lives!” The one who would shout you down in a meeting or tell you that you couldn’t be a feminist because you were too pretty. Or the one who thought homosexuality was a disease from Europe.
Yeah, that guy.


3. Accountability

http://muslimreverie.wordpress.com/2012/12/22/when-men-on-the-left-refuse-to-see-their-sexism/
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IMO: The use of misogynistic terms is self-defeating. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #1
that is how i see it ITW. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #3
Well educated people should be able to express their ideas better. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #5
interesting op sigmasix Apr 2013 #2
no. i will not change the wording of an author to appease or comfort A FEW men. seabeyond Apr 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author theKed Apr 2013 #27
no. i am not playing this stupid ass game. again... seabeyond Apr 2013 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author theKed Apr 2013 #30
first... this is the way OP after OP is created. title. then article in body seabeyond Apr 2013 #32
People do this all over DU, all day every day. MadrasT Apr 2013 #48
maybe i should put the link above. i thought it was suppose to be at the bottom. seabeyond Apr 2013 #50
Layers of games. MadrasT Apr 2013 #51
ya? and my first response was... right, tell me again why boys and men do EXACTLY the same seabeyond Apr 2013 #53
What game? MadrasT Apr 2013 #49
Ew. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #60
Did not ask for that- why would you assume? sigmasix Apr 2013 #63
none of the words are mine. the whole thing from title to picture to all text is the author. seabeyond Apr 2013 #65
Anybody can interpret and infer anything any way they choose to. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #132
You are truly the only one who can determine if it applies to you. boston bean Apr 2013 #6
Are you being sarcastic? chervilant Apr 2013 #8
Reach out to the author of the article JustAnotherGen Apr 2013 #26
Apparently it's all just too hard to figure out. redqueen Apr 2013 #37
"Are doors sexist? " bah hahahahaha. good chuckle. now... seabeyond Apr 2013 #38
tsk tsk JustAnotherGen Apr 2013 #40
I believe she's talking about men as a class -- not every man on the planet. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #57
Incorrect. The "When" limits it to only those who do so. If I say, "When people run marathons, Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2013 #84
ya... cause i am pretty sure not ALL people are runnin' that marathon. thanks. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #86
Yep. That particular "when" is "never" for most of us. Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2013 #129
Good post, and informative link! chervilant Apr 2013 #7
Unbridled misandry running amuck is more like it. Soundman Apr 2013 #9
what does that have to do with the OP? oh wait, nothing. first. seabeyond Apr 2013 #10
I have read the op several times and still find no connection to the title. Soundman Apr 2013 #14
"there is a group of five or so members" wow. you sound like you have been here a LONG time. seabeyond Apr 2013 #15
You don't want to JustAnotherGen Apr 2013 #29
"Sister Hair Flip An Idiot" sufrommich Apr 2013 #106
you call us a bunch of misandrists, and refer to your partner as "the wife"--charming. doesn't niyad Apr 2013 #35
sister militant of the order of the sisters of perpetual outrage. lmao. needs to continue. seabeyond Apr 2013 #36
Check out my new sig line1 JustAnotherGen Apr 2013 #41
Nice. I gotta think of a good "sister" name. MadrasT Apr 2013 #42
yes, I believe it is niyad Apr 2013 #46
you guys are funny. k.... someone decide on for me and tell me how to do it. lol seabeyond Apr 2013 #43
hmmm, sister immaculata comes to mind--will give it more thought. niyad Apr 2013 #47
The mercuryblues Apr 2013 #52
Lol. I like your sister name,go for it! sufrommich Apr 2013 #107
LOVE your new sig line!! niyad Apr 2013 #45
Luminous Animal and I discussed BainsBane Apr 2013 #70
yes, you may leave your clothes on. it's the sisters of perpetual indulgence who are often niyad Apr 2013 #44
HA ! whathehell Apr 2013 #58
can't take credit for it--a poster referred to some of us as militant feminists the other day--had niyad Apr 2013 #59
Still... whathehell Apr 2013 #67
Have you seen Luminous Animal's new sign line? BainsBane Apr 2013 #71
Sounds good to me, LOL. whathehell Apr 2013 #93
You know I'm not sure BainsBane Apr 2013 #95
Are you saying that whathehell Apr 2013 #123
no BainsBane Apr 2013 #125
Okay. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #130
Really? BainsBane Apr 2013 #69
It flew so far over your head that it didn't even ruffle the hair Scootaloo Apr 2013 #77
that was cute. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #79
:) BainsBane Apr 2013 #98
"Unbridled misandry" almost always means... MadrasT Apr 2013 #11
You're subject line strikes me as "unbridled bullshit run amuck", actually, whathehell Apr 2013 #55
Yea, right, attacking men who support women's rights is the ticket quinnox Apr 2013 #12
kinda ironic since it is an article addressing men attacking women thru sexism seabeyond Apr 2013 #13
He has been blocked. boston bean Apr 2013 #17
ya. i getcha. not like his position is not quite clear for all of us. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #18
Good....You're right...It's hardly a "safe haven" when they attack us for sport. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #54
Funny isn't it? Soundman Apr 2013 #19
No you haven't. You have made yourself a focus. boston bean Apr 2013 #21
asking men who are suppose to be on the side of equality for women is devolving into the enemy? seabeyond Apr 2013 #22
Way to miss the point. (n/t) MadrasT Apr 2013 #23
What rights do you support? BainsBane Apr 2013 #83
Like members here criticizing Democratic politicians? BainsBane Apr 2013 #85
This knocked it out of the park MadrasT Apr 2013 #16
the whole article needed to be posted for our fellow duers. but ya... that should be highlighted seabeyond Apr 2013 #20
Thanks for posting this. redqueen Apr 2013 #24
There are actually people in this thread boston bean Apr 2013 #25
SOME, you gotta change it to SOME, right fuckin' now.... please, oh please.... seabeyond Apr 2013 #31
You can set your watch by it. redqueen Apr 2013 #39
Indeed... whathehell Apr 2013 #56
k and r--thank you for posting this, sea. most informative. niyad Apr 2013 #33
While "The Feminine Mystique" captured the interest Warpy Apr 2013 #34
I had a very long mercuryblues Apr 2013 #61
men... described only as professionally and acurately. woman... refered to as screaming. seabeyond Apr 2013 #62
in defense vulgar left males Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #64
when we start discussing the ease we use racism on du, then you may have a point. we seem to be seabeyond Apr 2013 #66
The truth is...Free speech is THE liberal principle Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #72
Do you really think the N word means something else now? BainsBane Apr 2013 #73
When white people try to use the in-group n-word they're shamed and ridiculed. redqueen Apr 2013 #75
Please consider your last paragraph Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #87
No, that is not my implication. redqueen Apr 2013 #89
I understand your point but.. Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #90
As soon as someone throws out the "PC" whine, they are off my list of people Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #111
honestly, i listen to a whole slew of this shit and i think, really. people are demanding the worst seabeyond Apr 2013 #116
The cheering is approved, ever present, and only getting louder. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #120
thank you for this post..... seabeyond Apr 2013 #121
the MLK quote at the bottom of your post...is perfect Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #118
the has been an evolution Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #78
I was raised to never use such language BainsBane Apr 2013 #80
not everyone was raised the same Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #88
which friend? BainsBane Apr 2013 #96
i see.... Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #99
I didn't say that BainsBane Apr 2013 #100
to close today with a point of agreement... Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #102
ya. racist, sexist, homophobic slurs have all evolved, no longer bothersome. this man meant nothin' seabeyond Apr 2013 #82
Do you call black people the n word boston bean Apr 2013 #74
Lets make this simple ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #76
excellent response BainsBane Apr 2013 #81
No not at all Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #91
"Political correctness" is RW spin. redqueen Apr 2013 #92
They have their own PC... Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #94
the term means sensitivity BainsBane Apr 2013 #97
ok one question. Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #101
you aren't "supposed" to take it any particular way, you take it any way you like. if you or your niyad Apr 2013 #103
... supposed to take it as humor...and we lol Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #108
What they do among themselves is their issue BainsBane Apr 2013 #105
I would never assume you are that familiar... Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #109
here's the thing BainsBane Apr 2013 #126
in the words of Ruth Marcus... Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #112
or a bully, sexist, misogynist. a racist. a homophobic. a white male with privilege not willing seabeyond Apr 2013 #117
Is Obama misogynist? Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #119
at a certain point of ignorance,.... just go away. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #122
indeed Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #124
he's been blocked. boston bean Apr 2013 #127
not to mention having HH brought back in thought, and the men playing with it, all the while seabeyond Apr 2013 #128
What, keep this simple? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #104
you have recognized my point Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #110
Okey dokey ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #113
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #114
yes it is strange..... Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #115
You handle these things beautifully BainsBane Apr 2013 #131
Exaggerated sense of victimhood much? nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #68
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