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History of Feminism

In reply to the discussion: FYI to group members. [View all]

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
31. Lawd
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:35 PM
Apr 2013

While I Kind of agree with BainB, one thing I've noticed, is outright aggressive posts, or worse passive aggressive posts, or ones stemming from dishonest intent, can be sidetracked a little if you use placating language. They are already angry. They either want an useless argument or an opportunity to attempt to be hurtful.

How do I know? I've experimented a bit here and there. The rules I made up; 1) never outright disagree, use neutral wording. 2) toss in some interest of the poster as a person 3) when finding a point of absolute disagreement, don't engage, continue to look for points that CAN be agreed on. 4) repeat back points for clarification

(parts of this, only with a LOT more sophistication,and Many more actual technique styles is nursing communication skills but in that case-----I'm dealing with very sick, often frightened individuals. These techniques for patients aren't nessisarily placating but part of good communication skills and a crucial part of my job)

So the first question, is Why. Why do I need to use placating techniques on posters to start a conversation, rather than an argument?

We all know the answer to that one. To filter through the tick-like bloat of ignorance and entitlement, to look for teaching or learning moments, to perhaps find a moment of commonality.

The second question is, 'is it worth it?'

Fuck no it's not. Treating discourtesy with courtesy or intellectual dishonesty with honest questioning is like filling the provebial bucket with a hole in it with water. I mind find rare "moments" here are there, but to my certain knowledge it doesn't change a thing. On a board with a different culture perhaps.

This is a discussion board. This is a Feminist group, with a clear statement of purpose. When our individual members are in say, GD, arguing and are met with joyful cruelty having a safe haven is important. The ones I do feel sorry for sometimes are those that wonder in from the greatest page. Unless they're all like 'eek! HoF cooties, I'm outta here' then I have to laugh.



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FYI to group members. [View all] boston bean Apr 2013 OP
ya know. not everyones mommy. that is what it is feeling like. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #2
I really appreciate that seaglass. boston bean Apr 2013 #3
I echo this sentiment from BostonBean. That said (on the issue of alert stalking).... hlthe2b Apr 2013 #4
why dont you just ask for the moon, from me, lol. i hear ya. will try. though 2 or 3 posts hidden seabeyond Apr 2013 #5
I know, sea... But I used to add qualifiers adnauseum when I thought someone was hlthe2b Apr 2013 #8
Your post would make sense if there was any hope that the owners would Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #6
Please know I am in no way suggsting self-censor of WHAT we say... merely hlthe2b Apr 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2013 #7
I hear what you are saying H boston bean Apr 2013 #9
I hear you too and don't disagree in general... hlthe2b Apr 2013 #10
that's on Skinner, not us. boston bean Apr 2013 #11
good advice nt BainsBane Apr 2013 #13
I like to Shake It Out ! DURHAM D Apr 2013 #14
I'm really looking forward to hearing this later... redqueen Apr 2013 #16
and all of the ghouls come out to play..... seabeyond Apr 2013 #17
I think we might have found the HOF anthem! hlthe2b Apr 2013 #18
When we do achieve that mass of evidence BainsBane Apr 2013 #15
I'm not so sure about that... hlthe2b Apr 2013 #19
It looks like someone else has decided to go to ATA BainsBane Apr 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #21
It's a joke. boston bean Apr 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #25
An exhaustive list of all the meta/HoF-stalking threads there redqueen Apr 2013 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #27
and that would simply be the OPS. then find individual posts and wow. lol. they really have nothin' seabeyond Apr 2013 #28
No, there's always the 'which celebrity would you date' thread. redqueen Apr 2013 #29
lol. betcha you are wrong and they are talking about us in those posts also. and no, seabeyond Apr 2013 #30
that would warrant a good number of BainsBane Apr 2013 #23
that alerter should go back to his "Who's the hawtest celebrity" discussions. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #24
Lawd ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #31
!!!!!!!! redqueen Apr 2013 #32
Glad you like ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #33
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