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seabeyond

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22. the thing about it is, like you have posted, we are a zillion times worse today than the past

Fri May 18, 2012, 08:41 AM

May 2012

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it is like the show you have an OP about. bring porn into our every day lives to normalize in society. it is all a matter of conditioning...

i cant believe all these people who are independently nature in thought and expression, readily say.... condition me society, condition me to not be my authentic self.

they are not only doing it willingly, but defending the right and proud of the conditioning aligning it with biology. society isnt conditioing me, how we are made, biology, though all facts and common sense says otherwise. it makes no sense to me. my 17 yr old was talking about a behavior with his friends. being grounded and pragmatic, insightful, he didnt get how they could wrap their mind around the behavior and not see the hypocrisy of the behavior. it didnt "feel" true to him. it reminded me that i had been that way growing up. i couldnt jump into much of the kid behavior cause my mind could not shift, adjust, allow the dictating behavior demanded. it didnt make sense to me then, either.

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How many times does it need to be proved before people start to care? [View all] redqueen May 2012 OP

Every woman lives with this every day. LiberalLoner May 2012 #1

I understand. redqueen May 2012 #3

i have started playing a game, just cause i like to. lol. bored. decades of being accessed seabeyond May 2012 #23

OMG I have been doing this too. MadrasT May 2012 #27

isnt it funny, fun and interesting. maybe if more women did this and did not take the docile role seabeyond May 2012 #29

Been trying to use that word "objectification". No one knows what it means. And when patrice May 2012 #2

That's why I was so excited about Miss Representation. redqueen May 2012 #4

A friend told me that the latest issue of Scientific American: MIND has some good brain research patrice May 2012 #7

if you find anything interesting, will you share, lol. i LOVE that stuff. nt seabeyond May 2012 #25

I'd LOVE to. It's hard to get people to pay attention to it & it's FASCINATING. patrice May 2012 #30

this really is my kind of stuff. and i have found a couple people in this forum seabeyond May 2012 #31

Many young people have much to teach us. Talking is a HUGE issue. Authentic conversation. patrice May 2012 #43

ok, i love you, too. lol. you are fun. seabeyond May 2012 #47

Funny you should bring that up, because I was thinking, on my errand, that some youngsters do patrice May 2012 #51

"No one thinks about *h*o*w* they think anymore." isnt that interesting. seabeyond May 2012 #24

Dogmatism = physical buzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. It's a physical reward to itself. A feedback loop. patrice May 2012 #37

That is a *very* interesting study. MadrasT May 2012 #5

Yes, it is valuable for confirming the difference. redqueen May 2012 #6

I love when the study already includes the answers to the whataboutery. MadrasT May 2012 #8

Ha, yes, redqueen May 2012 #13

Yeah! "Whataboutery"! That's what's missing. We NEED more of that! nt patrice May 2012 #21

men can be objectified to the moon, and it is not going to be the same because we do not have the seabeyond May 2012 #28

That is a very important point. redqueen May 2012 #42

that would shoot that damn theory, once again, that it is all biological and we cant help ourselves. seabeyond May 2012 #26

It will never go away, but it will be greatly reduced when ad firms stop Javaman May 2012 #9

Do you honestly think ad agencies will abelenkpe May 2012 #10

really, that's your reply to my opinion? Javaman May 2012 #11

Yes, that's a good first step, reducing it by eliminating gratuitous objectification in ads. redqueen May 2012 #12

As sort of a side note and an interesting result... Javaman May 2012 #14

Oh me too! MadrasT May 2012 #16

I too am a slave to home desperate. Javaman May 2012 #19

yup. i have been feeling for hubby, cause he lost his history on history channel. something he seabeyond May 2012 #36

I have switched from watching history on tv... Javaman May 2012 #44

excellent. thank you java. i am clueless, but hubby would be able to figure this out. seabeyond May 2012 #48

"started living more simply." did that more than a decade ago. thing, pffft. lol seabeyond May 2012 #34

Please... MadrasT May 2012 #41

lmfao... ya. that seabeyond May 2012 #49

agreed. good for you. and i think you are right. seabeyond May 2012 #33

maybe go back to just the "creepy" man instead of a lot of men? nt seabeyond May 2012 #32

You mean like the old "spokesman" from the 1950's? Javaman May 2012 #35

wasnt around in the 50s so i dont know..... i am not really talking about ads though, but seabeyond May 2012 #38

You're right. Javaman May 2012 #46

Most fish don't study, or even notice, the water they are swimming in. Most people Nay May 2012 #15

I am tired too Nay. MadrasT May 2012 #17

Considering the backsliding that's taken place since the 80's, I can only imagine. redqueen May 2012 #18

Nailed it! It's called "habituation" and it's built into our neverous/sensory/perceptual apparati. patrice May 2012 #20

taught me VERY early that tired was NOT an option, so saying I'm tired is not something I do easily seabeyond May 2012 #40

up until the tired part.... i love your post. at the tired part, i get it. seabeyond May 2012 #39

the thing about it is, like you have posted, we are a zillion times worse today than the past seabeyond May 2012 #22

It makes sense if you think about the desire to be part of the group. redqueen May 2012 #45

i let kids watch some and not watch a lot. no stupid, angry or johnny bravo seabeyond May 2012 #50

On this site? Years from now. MerryBlooms May 2012 #52