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Deep13

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12. You are misquoting me.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:44 PM
Sep 2013

"Children, however, have always been off limits in every stable society at every age in the history of humanity."

Stable societies protect children. Unstable ones, like ancient Sparta, practiced institutional pederasty as a control mechanism. And even they were adolescents and not strictly speaking children. Still, the whole society collapsed in two centuries. The modern Yemeni example is a society that is in a state of chaos right now. Traditionally, that would not have been allowed. And a young marriage, however wrong that is, did not necessarily mean immediate sexual conduct. Generally, in societies that allowed that sort of thing, sexual conduct would not occur for several years until the girl was what was considered a suitable age.

Pre-modern societies did not have mass media that sexualized everything. Erotic love as opposed to fraternal was not the default assumption as it is now. Many primary sources that have been read by modern readers as sexual in fact were not.

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Yes this is rape culture [View all] ismnotwasm Sep 2013 OP
k and r and 3. . 2. . . 1. . niyad Sep 2013 #1
sexual attraction to children is not normal or some choice period Arcanetrance Sep 2013 #2
3..., 2..., 1... R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #3
There are people actually trying to redefine hebephilia and pedophilia as a "kink" redqueen Sep 2013 #4
I have no problem shaming those assholes ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #5
Sorry apologists, but some preferences are not normal. Deep13 Sep 2013 #7
"Children, however, have always been off limits" - Not particularly true. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #8
What? (STRONG TRIGGER WARNING!) redqueen Sep 2013 #11
Historical standards are generally more strict about this than modern standards. Deep13 Sep 2013 #14
Interesting. redqueen Sep 2013 #15
When I was taking psych courses ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #16
That is interesting. Thanks. Nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #17
Yep. He went back and changed what he'd originally written. redqueen Sep 2013 #29
Not surprising, that was well into the modern era. Deep13 Sep 2013 #21
Actually, the idea that the Victorian era was characterized by sexual repression is a myth. redqueen Sep 2013 #28
But was the porn really all that representative? Deep13 Sep 2013 #30
I'm telling you, the repression was a myth. redqueen Sep 2013 #31
right. you said it well. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #32
I'd like to read on that. Deep13 Sep 2013 #33
You are misquoting me. Deep13 Sep 2013 #12
This ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #13
that is where the problem lies. so much of the facts are ignored or denied to tell the story that seabeyond Sep 2013 #18
Interesting analysis BainsBane Sep 2013 #20
thanks Deep13 Sep 2013 #22
feelings and actions are very different things. Deep13 Sep 2013 #6
if it is like we argued with the 3 or 4 men that came in saying it was a biological urge and could seabeyond Sep 2013 #9
Culturally, it's shameful how we sexualize and fetishize women and children. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #10
Astounding how many people argued that pedophilia was natural BainsBane Sep 2013 #19
Ya. And I never thought much of clooney. Pitt, ya. Clooney? No way. BUT, seabeyond Sep 2013 #23
I'm a Vin Diesel kind of girl myself ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #24
Really? BainsBane Sep 2013 #25
That's why I deliberately used a trailer shot of Riddick 3 ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #26
Yep, yep and yep. redqueen Sep 2013 #27
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