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MyshkinCommaPrince

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30. Question...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 05:07 PM
Dec 2013

I hope it is not in poor taste for me to ask a question about how some of the information is stated in the list. I find this bit confusing, which may merely mean that my math skills are worse than I thought.


Chances an incarcerated person is raped in the U.S.: 1 in 10

Increase in chance that LGTB prisoner is raped: 15x greater chance


Was the "15x greater" calculated using the same base value as the 10%? Following links, the 15x value represents a 67% chance, so it's being based on 67/15 = 4.4666667, round up to 5. The article relating to the 10% statistic says "nearly one in 10 prisoners report having been raped", so there is some rounding in the 10%, but jumping from 5 to "nearly 10" is... a big jump. The 10% times 15 would be an overall 150% chance.

Either my math is wonky or the list presents these two items in a potentially misleading manner. Can anyone check my math/reasoning, on this? I definitely don't want to derail anything or diminish the importance of the posted data. If we're trying to inform, it's probably good to seek accuracy, particularly with something as important as this. Obvious inaccuracy is easily attacked by those who might seek to discredit the topic.

Aside from that question, thank you for the information. This helps contextualize the debates we saw here, a week or two ago.

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50 Actual Facts About Rape [View all] ismnotwasm Dec 2013 OP
"Number of states in which rapists can sue for custody and visitation: 31" BlueJazz Dec 2013 #1
I had to stop reading this about 12 lines or so into it. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #2
maybe duers can have a LITTLE bit of empathy why women on du may be angry.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #3
oh... or the many men that use decrease in rape as an excuse for us women not being angry... we seabeyond Dec 2013 #4
Anybody who thinks like that is clearly damaged, and deluded or very angry themselves ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #9
When I countered that 99.999% fiction BainsBane Dec 2013 #43
seabeyond.... NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #6
enjoy your walk... seabeyond Dec 2013 #7
When certain members continually dismiss feminists as "prudish" or "sex negative" BainsBane Dec 2013 #47
bluntly they use those terms to denigrade womens sexuality. no different from slut shaming. and seabeyond Dec 2013 #48
I mentioned that word only because I used it in a recent reply. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #50
+1. I would add to this that those certain members pretty much act with impunity... YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #61
There is definitely overlap BainsBane Dec 2013 #66
There's also a certain level of overlap gollygee Dec 2013 #73
That is what has been most discouraging BainsBane Dec 2013 #82
Gee I wonder why their misogynist, anti-feminist bullshit gets a pass. redqueen Dec 2013 #79
I could not finish TNNurse Dec 2013 #25
Sorry, but "too much sadness"? xulamaude Dec 2013 #54
they are being generous saying 2-8%. it is 2-3%. they included "unfounded" in that %. see exactly seabeyond Dec 2013 #5
I felt the same way about the number unreported, for example. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #8
The Huffpost Author ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #10
"2-8%" what an odd figure.... YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #62
Let's look at Vietnam ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #11
"reluctance of the U.S. military to treat rape as a criminal offense," we heard it in the last round seabeyond Dec 2013 #13
I think what happens ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #17
+1. I always get the impression historylovr Dec 2013 #45
Kicked and Recommended!!! In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #12
i am getting dizzy seeing you here cheering and in the mens group dissing. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #14
Don't worry about it ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #15
lol. you are always posting gross out stuff, lol seabeyond Dec 2013 #16
LOL ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #19
I'm for women's rights in all respects. I understand being more than just angry. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #18
" I will not attack any one group as a whole." raising eyebrow, lol. seabeyond Dec 2013 #20
... In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #22
That's something I think we can all agree on BainsBane Dec 2013 #26
Back to where this conversation began: Rape of any woman, child or man is wrong. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #29
That is true. BainsBane Dec 2013 #21
And ... those men are not part of my life. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #23
And thus we work it out ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #24
It does. I seek the best in everyone. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #27
it would help though, if in disagreement, animosity was not fed.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #28
And that is true as well ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #31
They descend on threads like the one on 40 yrs of rape to champion one accused man BainsBane Dec 2013 #35
Exactly ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #37
Because it is never xulamaude Dec 2013 #51
I don't work for them or socialize with them. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #53
How do you know that for certain? xulamaude Dec 2013 #55
You are making a very good point there. The fact that I was trained as an In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #56
So you 'know it when you see it'? xulamaude Dec 2013 #57
Attitudes need not be explicit or out in the open.... YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #64
No ... however, body language will tell quite a bit about an individual. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #65
Question... MyshkinCommaPrince Dec 2013 #30
Oh you just had to go there ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #33
Yes, sorry about that. MyshkinCommaPrince Dec 2013 #38
... ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #40
1 in 10 seems low to me BainsBane Dec 2013 #36
All rape stats are lowballed ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #39
I wouldn't be surprised. MyshkinCommaPrince Dec 2013 #41
They are almost certainly from different sources BainsBane Dec 2013 #42
The fact that you can even do the math is great ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #44
There are also surveys some agencies do BainsBane Dec 2013 #71
they are reported rapes, minus the rapes downgraded, and the rapes concluded unfounded and the rapes seabeyond Dec 2013 #72
K&R'd & bookmarked. snot Dec 2013 #32
K & R historylovr Dec 2013 #34
In all fairness, Akin did acknowledge his error rocktivity Dec 2013 #46
Ew ew ew I suppose ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #49
Am I the only one who finds it strange BainsBane Dec 2013 #52
No, that was pure Twilight Zone. MadrasT Dec 2013 #58
Yeah the underlying thought seems to be gollygee Dec 2013 #60
A wise woman once said xulamaude Dec 2013 #59
Fucking sad, isn't it? YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #63
Fact 51, if the man who rapes you is important, like Julian Assange, it can't be rape BainsBane Dec 2013 #67
true that. or Polanski. not rape, rape. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #68
Just as the girls and women of Anytown USA, xulamaude Dec 2013 #69
Funny how some of the same ones were so keep on rape porn BainsBane Dec 2013 #70
Kicking Again historylovr Dec 2013 #74
meh. one more kick would not hurt. seabeyond Dec 2013 #75
:) Cute GIF historylovr Dec 2013 #76
Just a question. Laelth Dec 2013 #77
more likely to be raped in certain settings, not a whole. and the purpose is just how much of the seabeyond Dec 2013 #78
Interesting. Statistics are easy to manipulate. Laelth Dec 2013 #80
it is not arguing men are not raped. it is arguing that statisctically, our criminal dept did not seabeyond Dec 2013 #81
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