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History of Feminism

laconicsax

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18. I think the important part there is the Pope.

Reply to seabeyond (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 1, 2012, 08:36 PM

Jun 2012

The progressive movement only happened because it was allowed by the Pope. The current Pope is ultra-conservative and recommended to the last Pope that the Church should become much more rigid in its enforcement of doctrine and basically kick out anyone who disagrees. He's a hard-liner and not someone who is at all likely to any change.

I guess my point is that while it's great that the nuns are pushing back and that the laity want to see change, it's incredibly unlikely to happen because the Church is an organization where change can only come from the top.

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American nuns come out swinging against Vatican in face of �radical feminist� accusations [View all] boston bean Jun 2012 OP

ah, we ned to support these women. this does my heart go. stand up to the bullies sistahs..... seabeyond Jun 2012 #1

I'm with you! (nt) Tumbulu Jun 2012 #3

. seabeyond Jun 2012 #4

Thanks sea! Tumbulu Jun 2012 #8

that and you are so cool. thank you for telling us what is up. wow seabeyond Jun 2012 #9

Thank you again sea- the feelings are mutual Tumbulu Jun 2012 #10

Oh nooooooooo! MadrasT Jun 2012 #11

Thanks, it should get better soon- Tumbulu Jun 2012 #20

Dance like a butterfly.... MrMickeysMom Jun 2012 #2

I'd have to reverse what the Vatican said, having been helped by strong minded nuns. freshwest Jun 2012 #5

they could be the most positive global influence the church could ever have seabeyond Jun 2012 #7

My interactions with nuns in my childhood was not a positive experience. pennylane100 Jun 2012 #6

Go nuns! sonias Jun 2012 #12

this is the key.... we can only accomplish from within. yes. outside support is wonderful seabeyond Jun 2012 #13

Can you cite an example of the Church being changed from within? laconicsax Jun 2012 #14

they have gone through there moments of progression along with all religions and then slid back seabeyond Jun 2012 #15

That's not really an example, but ok. n/t laconicsax Jun 2012 #16

you had a whole period a handful of decades ago where the popes seabeyond Jun 2012 #17

I think the important part there is the Pope. laconicsax Jun 2012 #18

you are right on all that. i will still appreciate seeing the sisters (sisters as in nuns) seabeyond Jun 2012 #19