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DonCoquixote

(13,950 posts)
39. actually, I agree with you.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jun 2012

But when Susan Faludi, someone calling herself a feminist, starts selling this stuff, well, does it really help? I personally wonder if there are some feminists reading "matricide" and going "Susan my dear, I politely say you are full of it."

By the way here is the article:
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2010/10/0083140

And the backlash:
http://bullybloggers.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/justifiable-matricide-backlashing-faludi-by-jack-halberstam/

http://feministing.com/2010/09/27/electras-talk-back-responses-to-susan-faludis-harpers-piece/

I especially like this quote from the second:

"I talked to my own mom as I was deciding how to respond to this article and she said this: “The way I see it, you have to stop listening to my voice at times, so you can learn to listen to your own.” I depend on both my own mother, and the larger feminist legacy, for wisdom, but I expect to be seen and heard accurately and compassionately in return. It’s time that we took this dialogue to a new level; instead we’re wallowing in finger-pointing and holier-than-thou judgment. There are real enemies out there, waiting for our good energy and savvy methodologies. Let’s not waste all of our time parodying one another."

Amen.

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this is what people defend on du. tell us there is not an underlying issue seabeyond Jun 2012 #1
It'd be comforting to think it was all a bunch of preteen idiots... redqueen Jun 2012 #2
Are these indie women trying to take my BOOBIEEEES!!?! truedelphi Jun 2012 #37
! ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #42
FYI 4Chan = Anonymous Indydem Jun 2012 #3
Not sure what point you're trying to make... redqueen Jun 2012 #4
My point? Indydem Jun 2012 #10
Agreed, they terrorized feminist bloggers in the beginning. He loved Big Brother Jun 2012 #46
"Why do we tolerate it against women?" redqueen Jun 2012 #49
Or wait no sorry, it's death threats and nasty wikipedia edits for feminism that men don't like.... redqueen Jun 2012 #5
And then they wonder why Manifestos are written. MadrasT Jun 2012 #6
I left out the attempt to sabotage the kickstarter account... redqueen Jun 2012 #7
I see your point but DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #11
i think that whole argument with scum is intellectually lazy and i am not going to allow some to seabeyond Jun 2012 #12
That was not the point DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #15
interesting. but, i dont see it like you do. as i said, women have lived in that stink forever and seabeyond Jun 2012 #17
hey... btw. i didnt come in here to argue with everything you said, just worked that way seabeyond Jun 2012 #18
I understand DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #20
i am done with those don. i just wont do the ugly anymore. seabeyond Jun 2012 #21
The problem lies in the Berlin Expat Jun 2012 #23
interesting story. but, yes, that is the fun of it, too. seabeyond Jun 2012 #24
it seems ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #43
I chose the term quite deliberately and intentionally. n/t MadrasT Jun 2012 #25
They're even trolling the comments at the NS site... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #8
They're everywhere. redqueen Jun 2012 #9
Strictly moderated boards DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #13
the bully does not stop if everyone around them says nothing. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #16
True enough DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #19
interesting.... seabeyond Jun 2012 #22
Women have been fighting for centuries. redqueen Jun 2012 #26
+1. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #27
I understand that DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #28
cycles where ther is hope, and dark ages seabeyond Jun 2012 #29
Thanks DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #31
We are definitely in the dark ages now. redqueen Jun 2012 #30
like any war DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #32
Someone could find examples of such pissing contests among groups of liberals, redqueen Jun 2012 #33
Of course DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #35
good post. after study over the last couple months, i think you got some wrong. i think seabeyond Jun 2012 #36
actually, I agree with you. DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #39
first article by Susan Faludi seabeyond Jun 2012 #40
i really liked the second article. seemed the woman was much more on target. seabeyond Jun 2012 #41
go 4 it DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #45
Great reply, seabeyond! He loved Big Brother Jun 2012 #47
we got ambushed with the wave issue. study and thought and realization that 3rd is not solely define seabeyond Jun 2012 #48
+1 Little Star Jun 2012 #50
+ ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #44
Anonymous DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #14
K&R SunSeeker Jun 2012 #34
Proud to be Rec number 23. n/t truedelphi Jun 2012 #38
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