I think it's important that everyone in our group knows what we are up against.

[hlthe2b]

50. I take your comments as sincere, but despite your friendly suggestion,

decisions on bannings have not been impulsive and usually follow a warning or warnings. Further, we have reversed at least one where we felt that the issue at hand was amicably resolved to the satisfaction of group and poster. HOF has banned far less than other groups that have been or frequently are subject to considerable disruption, including the Barack Obama Group and LGBT. I feel strongly that those two safe haven groups have been judicious in their blocks and we have strived to do the same.

So, I think that that will be the extent of my justification for our bans, which have been absolutely necessary to avoid a total derailing of the group and its purpose for its existence. Those who were banned had the opportunity to appeal to the host, but have nearly all chosen instead to post in Meta. Obviously we don't find that pleasant and is clearly not the way to work out a dispute if one is sincere about trying to effect a reinstatement. Some among our group feel we don't ban enough or quickly enough, but we do seek a balance that is fair and effective. The bottom line is that the group and meeting the needs of that group come first.

Whatever others wish to say about us is their responsibility. I can assure you that we have been hearing from DUers that are less frequent among the voices in Meta or GD, or even new to DU, who have been horrified at the accusations enough to come and check for themselves. And when they do, they often decide to stay and contribute. As with many things, angry voices do not always sway people to their opinions. I invite those who are interested in Feminism and women's issues in general to come and decide for themselves. This will be maintained as an environment where civil conversation can be fostered. It is inevitable, however, that we will continue to block those who wish to disrupt and violate the basic SOP for the group.