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In reply to the discussion: Porn & Pop Culture: A deadly Combination [View all]4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)that has a number of studies citing greater access to porn and then commentary showing why that's a horrible thing. But no actual studies showing anything bad.
So saying "porn is X % more accessible now and . . . . this must necessarily lead to men not respecting women" has the impression of a real study but in reality all that is noted is one trend, not any meaningful connection to the conclusions based on that trend. For instance: in the years leading up to 9/11 porn became increasingly available. Truth. However, linking the two would be silly. Not so?
So to sum up: that source had many links to studies on the prevalence of porn. But none on actual studies linking that to anything. Which is kinda my point: porn use is on the rise. Violence against women is not.
And the other study doesn't reference any real studies at all (except they one they were "refuting"
. They use phrases like "it seems to me" or "I think not"
I never denied that some women feel this way. Which is all your sources have proven.
I was more interested in finding a legitimate scientific link between porn access and any quantifiable harm to society.
It's living in a culture where you're afraid to go out alone at night, where you re-think the clothes you have on lest someone considers you provocative, where you don't contribute to male conversations because they would ridicule you simply because you're not one of them, where radio hosts get to call you a slut because you want access to affordable birth control.
Prior to the internet no woman was ever afraid of going out at night alone. And the internet came up with the word "slut".
You do realize the standards you have set here are entirely subjective? Your argument is based exclusively on your "feeling" that things are so much worse now. In a way that absolutely cannot be disproven. Like saying today is the worst possible day in history because it seems like people are really mean.
Living in a culture that dehumanizes & objectifies women is violence against women. The message is that we are not equal to men, that we are subservient to them. Yet we are a species that requires two to survive. A planet full of women with a few well stocked sperm banks would fare better at surviving than a planet full of men with well stocked fertilized eggs. How dare men suggest that we are not equal?
State claim: porn dehumanizes women. Use claim as fact: why do we live in a society that dehumanizes women? Then run with it: men are only good as sperm producers! They could easily be replaced by sperm banks. Womyn rule!
As for your comparison between how women fare in Saudi Arabia vs. Sweden, I'm sure if the Saudi's would just start watching porn they would treat their women better!
By your argument they should treat women better since they ban dehumanizing porn that is commonplace in sweden.