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boston bean

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Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:28 PM Jul 2012

The Solution to MRA Problems? More Feminism [View all]

Men’s rights activists—a loose coalition mostly comprised of men embittered that they’re not getting as much tail as they believe they’re due and men embittered after having their wives up and leave against their wishes—irritate feminist bloggers for many reasons, from blaming feminists for problems they clearly brought on themselves, to the Russian bride weirdness, to their dogged trolling and grudge-holding of feminists that criticize them.

But, honestly, all that pales in comparison to the most irritating thing of all about MRAs: they’re just so wrong.

When you believe that we live in a female-dominated world where straight men are the most oppressed class, it tends to make you wrong about pretty much everything. Wrong about the little things, like labeling every woman who displeases them a “feminist,” even if she does something highly traditional, like demands that men pay for every date. And wrong about big things, like writing off high rates of domestic violence and rape as matters of women lying, when all reputable sources agree that there’s simply a lot of violence against women.

They’re so wrong about everything, they’re wrong even when they’re right. Some of their observations of the world correspond with reality, but when they attempt to analyze it through the “blame feminism” lens, they get all turned around. Usually what annoys them stems not from feminism, but from sexism, especially when it comes to inflexible gender roles. Ironically, then, the solution to the problems they manage to correctly identify is … more feminism. I pulled together a sampling of examples to show how this works.


Go to the article to learn the the MRA's Gripe and how to counter it.

Common MRA gripes, such as these:

Men are more often the primary or even sole breadwinners of nuclear-family households.

Men have to do all the work asking women out, and women are often hostile to men’s overtures, which hurts men’s feelings.

Men are more likely to get killed at work.

Ladies Night, where bars often extend a drink special to women and not to men.


http://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/solution-mra-problems-more-feminism/

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The comments on that article are great. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #1
Yeah. Great. MadrasT Jul 2012 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #7
"Most violence in the home is initiated by women, and the main victims are the children." JTFrog Jul 2012 #13
. seabeyond Jul 2012 #14
The idea that women are responsible for most domestic violence redqueen Jul 2012 #15
good mens project is interesting seabeyond Jul 2012 #16
Most men don't recognize the reality of male privege or the patriarchy. redqueen Jul 2012 #19
This particular piece in the OP was written by Amanda Marcotte. boston bean Jul 2012 #17
This is a decent summary. redqueen Jul 2012 #18
That does explain a lot. Thank you. boston bean Jul 2012 #20
I'm sure there's still good stuff there... redqueen Jul 2012 #21
I have seen MRA's claim that domestic violence is frequenty women's fault MadrasT Jul 2012 #22
did you forget this, perchance? mzteris Jul 2012 #38
"Russian bride weirdness". what is that. i am hearing this way too often. seabeyond Jul 2012 #3
That is the idea MadrasT Jul 2012 #4
i dont know about russian women, i have an idea, but the asian women i know seabeyond Jul 2012 #5
Sheeeit MadrasT Jul 2012 #6
princesses..... is what i hear. seabeyond Jul 2012 #9
Not sure how it is in most Asian countries, redqueen Jul 2012 #8
i know decades ago, in the 70's seabeyond Jul 2012 #10
*snort* MadrasT Jul 2012 #11
"Target market FAIL." bah hahaha seabeyond Jul 2012 #12
Now I have MadrasT Jul 2012 #23
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Thanks, DU. Nice to have my objectification delivered to me right here seabeyond Jul 2012 #25
Reading one of the comments has me wondering Broderick Jul 2012 #26
absolutely. good point. i wish women would stop. like, all the accusations hurled seabeyond Jul 2012 #27
Yes. We do get distracted by those derailments sometimes. MadrasT Jul 2012 #28
I think you've touched on a huge part of the problem. redqueen Jul 2012 #29
I understand what you are saying completely Broderick Jul 2012 #30
Oh I agree completely. redqueen Jul 2012 #31
i love that. but, it also goes along witht he discussion of strippin and prostitutin seabeyond Jul 2012 #33
Another one of those things Broderick Jul 2012 #35
No, we shouldn't have to. redqueen Jul 2012 #37
If that was your deconstruction post Broderick Jul 2012 #34
Oh no, it wasn't mine. redqueen Jul 2012 #36
one side has to "win" and one side has to "lose" that taints so many discussions. seabeyond Jul 2012 #32
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