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History of Feminism

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proverbialwisdom

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Fri Jul 13, 2012, 04:31 PM Jul 2012

My first visit to this group was last night serving on a jury for a post on a Tosh thread. [View all]

It's easy to pile on sometimes; other times, not so much.

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July 10, 2012

Whatever Happened to Melissa Harris-Perry?

When a Feminist Gets Bumped for a Pornographer

by GAIL DINES


Last week, midway through a leisurely Saturday afternoon, I got an email from MSNBC asking me to be on the Melissa Harris Perry Show a week later (July 7th). I was delighted to accept, as MHP is not your usual American journalist. A professor of political science at Tulane University, she is an outspoken African American feminist and a progressive voice in a media landscape dominated by right-wing talking heads. MSNBC is a rare media oasis in the U.S. where one gets to hear some actual critical analysis, so I—mistakenly, it turned out—thought this was going to be one of the few positive experiences I’ve had working with corporate-controlled media. In all honesty, after many years of being on talk shows in the U.S., I have come to expect very little in terms of integrity from the media. Their job is to boost ratings by making stories entertaining and light, and God help anyone who gets in their way.

I spent a long time on the phone with MHP’s producer talking about my research on the harms of porn and the ways women in the industry—especially women of color—are financially exploited and physically and emotionally dehumanized and debased. Given MHP’s feminist politics and her scholarly work on the representation of African American women in U.S. history, I was excited to do a show with an interviewer whom I expected would be engaging and thoughtful, in contrast to the usual adolescent sniggering I get from the male journalist who suddenly finds himself in the awkward position of interviewing a feminist who doesn’t think porn is fun.

But by the middle of the week things started to go very wrong. My last conversation with the producers was on the Sunday before the show, and I was told that I would get a call by Tuesday to confirm my travel details. Wednesday came, and no call. On Thursday, I got an email saying that the “segment is changing,” so they won’t need me. “Changing”… not canceled. To the uninitiated this might seem like splitting hairs, but I am an old hand at dealing with the media, and I have been in this position more times than I can count.

Let me explain how it often plays out: I get a call from a producer to do a show about porn, and in our pre-show discussion the producer is shocked to hear about what really goes on in the porn industry...
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Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #1
i am curious myself cause i respect the woman so. and i have listened to dines on NPR seabeyond Jul 2012 #3
I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #6
i am sittin right there with you with all you say in your post. lol, exactly. seabeyond Jul 2012 #7
i like dines. i have listened to her. we really cant use her here for conversation because a group seabeyond Jul 2012 #2
Is Gail Dines a "RW fundie whacko, looking to squelch free speech and turn us all into Puritans"? boston bean Jul 2012 #5
i have never heard she is rw or religious, but she is too outspoken about porn ergo.... whacko seabeyond Jul 2012 #8
I have no clue either... I'm sure we'll be "informed" shortly.... hlthe2b Jul 2012 #10
Porn is a multi billion dollar industry. redqueen Jul 2012 #4
Thank you for posting this proverbialwisdom.... hlthe2b Jul 2012 #9
Thank you. I'd bet everyone involved self-identified as a feminist. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #12
Doing some independent reading is a good idea, eg. PORNLAND by academic Gail Dines. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #11
Ugh, Max Hardcore. redqueen Jul 2012 #13
How many times have we seen the "all porn is sacred" sufrommich Jul 2012 #14
Yep, or even just the way she's treated. redqueen Jul 2012 #15
"To criticize porn today is to be seen as criticizing sex, " seabeyond Jul 2012 #18
"certain sex hating Members of Parliament want to stop the flow" sounds like NRA argument seabeyond Jul 2012 #16
It is exactly the same. nt sufrommich Jul 2012 #17
isnt it interesting how with about all ways with the pro porn from the style of argument seabeyond Jul 2012 #21
3rd article "great for men who want to learn how to be with a woman." fundie boyscouts seabeyond Jul 2012 #19
you later article of the trafficking is much more serious. this is where porn takes us today seabeyond Jul 2012 #20
Transcript - 'The Melissa Harris-Perry Show' for Saturday, July 7, 2012 proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #22
I like Dines. CrispyQ Jul 2012 #23
yes. she is another one that has so much information. and so well developed and defined. seabeyond Jul 2012 #24
Prof. Gail Dines (Sociology Dept) academic lecture, 'Neoliberalism and the Defanging of Feminism.' proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #25
Thanks for posting this. redqueen Oct 2012 #26
5 minutes into it the other day, and didnt get back to it. but, but, but, dines is bad. seabeyond Oct 2012 #28
It's kind of amusing MadrasT Oct 2012 #30
not to mention she really didnt make that second wave time period. it appears she was born in '58. seabeyond Oct 2012 #31
In this context I am talking about "second wave" as a group of ideas... MadrasT Oct 2012 #32
OMG the hypocrisy is breathtaking. Truly. seabeyond Oct 2012 #33
Thank you ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #27
good post. seabeyond Oct 2012 #29
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