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seabeyond

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2. i like dines. i have listened to her. we really cant use her here for conversation because a group
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jul 2012

has decided she is wacko and what she brings to the table is nutz.... so she is irrelevant and anyone that uses her voice is an extremist. thank you for not knowing better.

i like Melissa Harris Perry. and i remember the help interview. i could hear what she was saying was true, and proud and impressed with her ability to see beyond. and i am disappointed she chose this route. thank you for this article. it was informative.



they see their fun, hot-ratings-driver segment going down the tubes, and they are suddenly in the not-so-fun territory of cruelty, violence, and economic exploitation.

I remember watching an MHP segment on MSNBC after she saw the movie The Help. I use this clip in my classes on racism in media because her passion and eloquence are so deeply felt. She is upset by the movie, and she is almost in tears when she explains how white-produced images of African American women deny the reality of their lives and render invisible the pain and suffering real black domestics endured at the hands of white employers. In another interview, MHP said that her fear was that The Help will become “the historical record because of its popularity, and that people who see the movie will come to believe that that’s really what happened“.

Clearly, MHP understands the power of media images to shape the way people think. If this is true of movies, then it is also true of other media genres, including porn. If MHP is upset at The Help for misrepresenting black women’s lives, then what about popular porn sites such as Bad Black Babes, Pimp My Black Teen, or Ghetto Gaggers, or any of the thousands of websites that show black women “enjoying” sexual degradation at the hands of black and white men? These images, just like the ones in The Help, are part of the media world that creates ideas, attitudes, and beliefs that undermine all women’s rights to full equality, dignity, and justice. I didn’t expect Taormino or the other guests to take this on, but I did expect a political science professor to be a little more savvy and intellectually inquisitive about how individual and collective perceptions are formed by cultural institutions.

worse, in this segment, MHP went from being an academic to a talk show host, and along the way she compromised her integrity as a feminist.


and welcome to HOF

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Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #1
i am curious myself cause i respect the woman so. and i have listened to dines on NPR seabeyond Jul 2012 #3
I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #6
i am sittin right there with you with all you say in your post. lol, exactly. seabeyond Jul 2012 #7
i like dines. i have listened to her. we really cant use her here for conversation because a group seabeyond Jul 2012 #2
Is Gail Dines a "RW fundie whacko, looking to squelch free speech and turn us all into Puritans"? boston bean Jul 2012 #5
i have never heard she is rw or religious, but she is too outspoken about porn ergo.... whacko seabeyond Jul 2012 #8
I have no clue either... I'm sure we'll be "informed" shortly.... hlthe2b Jul 2012 #10
Porn is a multi billion dollar industry. redqueen Jul 2012 #4
Thank you for posting this proverbialwisdom.... hlthe2b Jul 2012 #9
Thank you. I'd bet everyone involved self-identified as a feminist. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #12
Doing some independent reading is a good idea, eg. PORNLAND by academic Gail Dines. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #11
Ugh, Max Hardcore. redqueen Jul 2012 #13
How many times have we seen the "all porn is sacred" sufrommich Jul 2012 #14
Yep, or even just the way she's treated. redqueen Jul 2012 #15
"To criticize porn today is to be seen as criticizing sex, " seabeyond Jul 2012 #18
"certain sex hating Members of Parliament want to stop the flow" sounds like NRA argument seabeyond Jul 2012 #16
It is exactly the same. nt sufrommich Jul 2012 #17
isnt it interesting how with about all ways with the pro porn from the style of argument seabeyond Jul 2012 #21
3rd article "great for men who want to learn how to be with a woman." fundie boyscouts seabeyond Jul 2012 #19
you later article of the trafficking is much more serious. this is where porn takes us today seabeyond Jul 2012 #20
Transcript - 'The Melissa Harris-Perry Show' for Saturday, July 7, 2012 proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #22
I like Dines. CrispyQ Jul 2012 #23
yes. she is another one that has so much information. and so well developed and defined. seabeyond Jul 2012 #24
Prof. Gail Dines (Sociology Dept) academic lecture, 'Neoliberalism and the Defanging of Feminism.' proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #25
Thanks for posting this. redqueen Oct 2012 #26
5 minutes into it the other day, and didnt get back to it. but, but, but, dines is bad. seabeyond Oct 2012 #28
It's kind of amusing MadrasT Oct 2012 #30
not to mention she really didnt make that second wave time period. it appears she was born in '58. seabeyond Oct 2012 #31
In this context I am talking about "second wave" as a group of ideas... MadrasT Oct 2012 #32
OMG the hypocrisy is breathtaking. Truly. seabeyond Oct 2012 #33
Thank you ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #27
good post. seabeyond Oct 2012 #29
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