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In reply to the discussion: My first visit to this group was last night serving on a jury for a post on a Tosh thread. [View all]redqueen
(115,186 posts)13. Ugh, Max Hardcore.
I wonder if those who so zealously defend porn and smear every anti-porn feminist as an anti-sex prude delusional fundie who's in bed with the religious right know who he is and don't care, or if they're clueless.
Also this seems so, so, so very hard to get across to people. I wish I knew why.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gail-dines/adventures-in-pornland_b_636381.html
...Using interviews with hundreds of college-age students, Pornland takes a close look at what it means for young women and men to grow up in such a culture and how it shapes their identities, sexualities, and ideas about intimacy, relationships, and connection.
"One problem I knew I had to deal with as I was writing the book was the inevitable accusation that, because I am anti-porn, I must be an anti-sex prude who is out to police people's sex lives. To criticize porn today is to be seen as criticizing sex, because--thanks to the porn PR machine--porn has now become synonymous with sex. t
The way I address this in the book is to ask the reader what would happen if this book were a critique of McDonald's for its exploitive labor practices, its destruction of the environment, and its impact on our diet and health. Would I be accused of being anti-eating or anti-food? I suspect that most readers would understand that the critique was focused on the large-scale impact of the fast-food industry and not the human need, experience, and joy of eating. So I say in the preface that this book should be read as a critique of the industrialization and commodification of sex by corporate predators, and not as an attack on sex itself.
It is this industrial setting that often gets ignored in the heated debates over porn..."
...Using interviews with hundreds of college-age students, Pornland takes a close look at what it means for young women and men to grow up in such a culture and how it shapes their identities, sexualities, and ideas about intimacy, relationships, and connection.
"One problem I knew I had to deal with as I was writing the book was the inevitable accusation that, because I am anti-porn, I must be an anti-sex prude who is out to police people's sex lives. To criticize porn today is to be seen as criticizing sex, because--thanks to the porn PR machine--porn has now become synonymous with sex. t
The way I address this in the book is to ask the reader what would happen if this book were a critique of McDonald's for its exploitive labor practices, its destruction of the environment, and its impact on our diet and health. Would I be accused of being anti-eating or anti-food? I suspect that most readers would understand that the critique was focused on the large-scale impact of the fast-food industry and not the human need, experience, and joy of eating. So I say in the preface that this book should be read as a critique of the industrialization and commodification of sex by corporate predators, and not as an attack on sex itself.
It is this industrial setting that often gets ignored in the heated debates over porn..."
It seems extremely straightforward and logical to me. Very intuitive. I never needed this explained, and I don't understand why no amount of explaining seems to help some people to grasp this very important distinction.
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My first visit to this group was last night serving on a jury for a post on a Tosh thread. [View all]
proverbialwisdom
Jul 2012
OP
i am curious myself cause i respect the woman so. and i have listened to dines on NPR
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#3
i like dines. i have listened to her. we really cant use her here for conversation because a group
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#2
Is Gail Dines a "RW fundie whacko, looking to squelch free speech and turn us all into Puritans"?
boston bean
Jul 2012
#5
i have never heard she is rw or religious, but she is too outspoken about porn ergo.... whacko
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#8
Doing some independent reading is a good idea, eg. PORNLAND by academic Gail Dines.
proverbialwisdom
Jul 2012
#11
"certain sex hating Members of Parliament want to stop the flow" sounds like NRA argument
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#16
isnt it interesting how with about all ways with the pro porn from the style of argument
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#21
3rd article "great for men who want to learn how to be with a woman." fundie boyscouts
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#19
you later article of the trafficking is much more serious. this is where porn takes us today
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#20
Transcript - 'The Melissa Harris-Perry Show' for Saturday, July 7, 2012
proverbialwisdom
Jul 2012
#22
yes. she is another one that has so much information. and so well developed and defined.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#24
Prof. Gail Dines (Sociology Dept) academic lecture, 'Neoliberalism and the Defanging of Feminism.'
proverbialwisdom
Oct 2012
#25
5 minutes into it the other day, and didnt get back to it. but, but, but, dines is bad.
seabeyond
Oct 2012
#28