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seabeyond

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32. her authentic self. that is the goal for both our boy and girl. from the youngest of ages i was

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:53 AM

Jul 2012

challenging ALL things that came on that tv being fed to the boys. this cereal is the BEST tasting cereal ever. my four year old had to have that cereal. i knew he would hate it. but the tv said it was the best tasting cereal ever. of course they did, they want you to buy it. i told him, we will buy, he will see, and lesson learned to not be suckered in. gotta use your brain. always use your brain.

how much have you challenged daughter on pink? she may well like it. i dont know. my niece at 4 is at the house. had conversation with my 20 yr old niece. sons both told young one, older niece doesnt like pink. hates pink. rejects pink. the younger said, then she is not a girl.

came in to me. i told her i hate pink.

no you dont

yes i do

nu uh. you are a girl.

no i am not i am a woman.

your a girl

a woman

you are a girl too

no, i am a woman and i dont like pink.

you have to like pink.

no i dont

yes you do.

nu uh

what color do you like

green

the point.... it was clear that NO ONE challenged this girl on her assumption that pink was a girl color. why? why would there at least not be a discussion how society force feeds pink on a girl. 4 is a wonderful age to get kids thinking.

what really flipped her out is when my 17 yr old son said he liked pink. pink is a good color for him and he has 3, 4 shirts that are pink. spun her world out into orbit.

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Why 6-Year-Old Girls Want to Be Sexy [View all] redqueen Jul 2012 OP

And this is not that far from the Islamist ideals. PDJane Jul 2012 #1

We'll have reached equality when males are responsible Warpy Jul 2012 #31

it is much deeper than just eating disorders. a society that has totally dehumanized the female seabeyond Jul 2012 #2

One thing I find very disturbing... redqueen Jul 2012 #3

absolutely redq seabeyond Jul 2012 #4

kinda confused over this one, are yoiu saying that someone hasnt the right to take pictures of loli phabay Jul 2012 #6

I hope future studies address this - Parents, teachers and peers Iris Jul 2012 #5

what is this with the cake thing? lol. i didnt even have a party for kids until 3 or 4. seabeyond Jul 2012 #7

I thought the smashing the cake in the face was a wedding tradition. CrispyQ Jul 2012 #9

ya... that one is stupid, too. i know they want the little ones to dig i and getting messy seabeyond Jul 2012 #10

my kids were the opposite, both of them just grabbed and started to eat. loli phabay Jul 2012 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jul 2012 #12

good to hear. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #13

If you are over analyzing, come sit by me! Iris Jul 2012 #17

cakes just teeming with whipped hydrogenated oils. seabeyond Jul 2012 #88

Some people seem to think it's some kind of "tradition" Iris Jul 2012 #15

when i was single seabeyond Jul 2012 #90

interesting that sport take a girl beyond this, and yea, what i was saying. but, also seabeyond Jul 2012 #8

I think parents don't realize how much influence they actually have. Iris Jul 2012 #16

was thinking about this article and not sure i agree with it %100, was thinking about my daughter 5 loli phabay Jul 2012 #14

When you say this: boston bean Jul 2012 #18

well at the most basic level they know there is an anatomy difference loli phabay Jul 2012 #19

Are you saying physical characteristics? boston bean Jul 2012 #22

not a man or a woman they are kids so act like a boy and a girl loli phabay Jul 2012 #24

Who asked you to force anything upon your children? boston bean Jul 2012 #27

fair enough. i got no problem with them fulfilling gender roles as they are happy and content. loli phabay Jul 2012 #30

"Her thing is hunting trapping fishing" she has already proved to you the gender roles are bullshit seabeyond Jul 2012 #44

you know what they say about assumptions loli phabay Jul 2012 #50

where are the assumtpion? i was asking you a question. that is not assumptions. the difference seabeyond Jul 2012 #52

okay i will take that back but trust me stepping outside tbe box is the norm loli phabay Jul 2012 #59

well they know he has a penis and she dosent loli phabay Jul 2012 #25

And how does she know this with others outside the family? boston bean Jul 2012 #28

considering all the kids in tbeir peer group use guns that would not be an identifier loli phabay Jul 2012 #34

at that young age the difference in having a penis and not having a penis teaching nothing of all seabeyond Jul 2012 #40

no they know what a penis is. its not exaclty something that should be hidden esp whilst peeing loli phabay Jul 2012 #45

did i say it needed to be hidden? assumptions? my kids were naked all summer ever summer until THEY seabeyond Jul 2012 #48

i dont think there is a lot of thinkig if you are suggesting society does not feed this seabeyond Jul 2012 #20

no i was saying it was strange to see her want a rifle but it had to be pink loli phabay Jul 2012 #21

You're daughter may very well just like the color pink. boston bean Jul 2012 #23

we cannot say for certain either way and as long as shes happy im okay with it loli phabay Jul 2012 #26

Fine, that is all I am saying, you cannot be certain. boston bean Jul 2012 #29

are you really suggesting that a COLOR is gender specific and not taught? are you really suggesting? seabeyond Jul 2012 #42

no once again you are using your filter loli phabay Jul 2012 #51

well, i am thrilled to hear and know that you do not think your girl loves pink simply because she seabeyond Jul 2012 #56

no pro lem i find the written word the worst form of communication there is loli phabay Jul 2012 #61

i really am enjoying my conversation with you. another oooops, on the roles we are given. seabeyond Jul 2012 #64

different culture i suppose also im very open about stuff though i will disagree with you on everyth loli phabay Jul 2012 #70

but... you do not disagree with me on everything. after all these posts, we disagree on very little seabeyond Jul 2012 #71

we just need to avoid each other when sex is the subject as i know our views are miles apart loli phabay Jul 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jul 2012 #75

maybe. maybe not. i do not assume. questions work better for me. and clarification. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #76

It is easy to teach kids to be aware of all the silly gender conditioning messages. redqueen Jul 2012 #33

her authentic self. that is the goal for both our boy and girl. from the youngest of ages i was seabeyond Jul 2012 #32

well she knows pink is a good colour on her and she feels it suits her loli phabay Jul 2012 #35

That's very good for you and your daughter. boston bean Jul 2012 #39

rofl i loved the finality of the hate of pink. loli phabay Jul 2012 #41

well then. there you go. it is not about gender, it is about liking the color and liking it on. seabeyond Jul 2012 #43

never said it was just said my daughter likes pink regardless of others input loli phabay Jul 2012 #53

i am glad to hear, cause this conversation started out sounding you thought pink was about gender seabeyond Jul 2012 #58

no i was just against forcing either view on kids. i am for allowing them to find their own way loli phabay Jul 2012 #65

we agree. me, too. i totally refuse that type of parenting. hence, me teaching them seabeyond Jul 2012 #68

mines are a pain in the ass most of the time but they are fun and cheeky as crap loli phabay Jul 2012 #72

ha ha ha. see, the opposite, though nto a disagreement. mine are not a pain in the ass and not seabeyond Jul 2012 #74

i hate to say it but her mother is the big hunter i will do it but she is more skillfull loli phabay Jul 2012 #77

ha. cool. my hubby has found in shooting, the girls/women often do better than the boys/men seabeyond Jul 2012 #79

my duaghter loves duck dynasty and river monsters loli phabay Jul 2012 #81

i was raised on a farm where at two i ran around the house to see father break the neck of two seabeyond Jul 2012 #82

maybbe not as much just the not killing thing loli phabay Jul 2012 #84

mmmm, well see, i am very much open to differing views. i married a repug. i gotta be open. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #85

rofl i stand by my advice that we avoid each other in any sex threads or you will be looking loli phabay Jul 2012 #86

nope. cant do that. if i have something to say, well.... there you go. seabeyond Jul 2012 #87

no probs i am just going to go to your other thread to disagree with you talk to you again loli phabay Jul 2012 #89

ha ha. make my day.... lol. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #91

I do not think that this article is true at all. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #36

in some ways i agree with you. my daughter wants to get married and have kids loli phabay Jul 2012 #37

does your son? cause my sons have always had that expectation also. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #46

nope he is vehemtly against it but hes only 7 so im not surprised loli phabay Jul 2012 #55

what do you mean he is only 7 so not surprised? cause innately a girl has the need to marry and seabeyond Jul 2012 #60

rofl i mean he sees me miserably married. just kidding loli phabay Jul 2012 #63

thanks. isnt that funny. but, for real. each kid is uniquely themselves. two sons. seabeyond Jul 2012 #66

Did you click the link and see the dolls used in the study? nt redqueen Jul 2012 #38

Nevermind, I already know you didn't read it. redqueen Jul 2012 #47

dsk is innocent. edwards is innocent. polenski did nothing wrong. weiner is good to go. seabeyond Jul 2012 #49

????? redqueen Jul 2012 #54

yes. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #62

Yikes. redqueen Jul 2012 #67

and yet.... i appreciate and value jd, just amazing how consistently opposite seabeyond Jul 2012 #69

redqueen, it is not that I think that is great behavior. I've been married to the same JDPriestly Jul 2012 #92

No, dems are no worse than republicans. redqueen Jul 2012 #93

The struggle to enforce marital fidelity without more is just futile in many situations. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #95

Who said anything about enforcing marital fidelity? redqueen Jul 2012 #96

see jd seabeyond Jul 2012 #94

kinda lost me there loli phabay Jul 2012 #57

More that they want to be like teenagers HockeyMom Jul 2012 #78

isnt this a duh.... lol. thanks for pointing this out. but, the teen girl is looking to be the seabeyond Jul 2012 #80

I doubt many teens they see in person dress like that doll. redqueen Jul 2012 #83