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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:02 AM Jul 2012

Booth babes need not apply [View all]

There is a growing chorus of frustration in the geek community with - and there's no other way to put this - pretty girls pretending to be geeks for attention. San Diego Comic-Con is the largest vehicle, but it's hardly the only convention populated with "hot chicks" wearing skimpy outfits simply to get a bunch of gawking geeks’ heads to turn, just to satisfy their hollow egos.

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There are lots of geeks who are female. Some of these female geeks are pretty girls. I find it fantastic that women are finally able to enjoy a culture that has predominately been male-oriented and male-driven. The presence of female geeks means that the fiction we're reading is broadening and, frankly, getting better in quality. It means nerdy films and television shows aren't relying on damsel in distress stories and objectification of women to draw readers. It means content is broadening and becoming smarter and more accessible. I want more of that. And be it known that I am good friends with several stunningly beautiful women who cosplay as stunningly beautiful characters from comics, sci-fi, fantasy and other genres of fandom. They are, each of them, bone fide geeks. They belong with us. Being beautiful is not a crime.

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I call these girls "6 of 9". They have a superpower: In the real world, they're beauty-obsessed, frustrated wannabe models who can't get work. They decide to put on a "hot" costume, parade around a group of boys notorious for being outcasts that don't get attention from girls, and feel like a celebrity. They're a "6" in the "real world", but when they put on a Batman shirt and head to the local fandom convention du jour, they instantly become a "9". They're poachers. They're a pox on our culture. As a guy, I find it repugnant that, due to my interests in comic books, sci-fi, fantasy and role playing games, video games and toys, I am supposed to feel honored that a pretty girl is in my presence. It's insulting.

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However, you "6 of 9s" out there? You're just gross. There's an entire contingent of guys in geekdom who absolutely love you, because inside, they're 13 year old boys who like to objectify women and see them as nothing more than butts and a pair of boobs to be leered at. Have fun with them, and don't be shocked when they send you XBox Live messages with ASCII penises. Those of us who actually like substance? We'll be over here celebrating great comics, great games, great art, great movies and great television, because we're actually attracted to a completely different body part: the brain.

http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/24/booth-babes-need-not-apply/?hpt=hp_c3

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we are really seeing such an issue with all this in this community. interesting. i think.

this is a man that is addressing it from an unique perspective. i think it is a good thing. i especially like that he speaks out that he finds it insulting to his gender. good for him.

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Booth babes need not apply [View all] seabeyond Jul 2012 OP
I suppose it's all a matter of personal taste. I like geeky "Library Girl" types... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #1
"grown men as 13 year old boys who like to objectify women". seabeyond Jul 2012 #3
I wish you and I would live to see a time when the popular media would stop... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #5
so true and agree totally. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #6
cue: Where the Boys Are annabanana Jul 2012 #2
Where the Boys Are seabeyond Jul 2012 #4
as a "woman of a certain age" annabanana Jul 2012 #9
mad man really bugs me becuase with the step back that we have made of late seabeyond Jul 2012 #10
I think "Mad Men" is doing the opposite of reinforcing sexism. PassingFair Jul 2012 #33
Your post reminds me of something I read about All In The Family. redqueen Jul 2012 #40
come away feeling validated and happy with the show's dialogue. seabeyond Jul 2012 #43
I don't watch it, but if it's presented in such a way, redqueen Jul 2012 #44
Fuck this guy. redqueen Jul 2012 #7
this is seabeyond Jul 2012 #11
He is being an ass. redqueen Jul 2012 #13
Despite the title, I actually don't think he's talking about the paid models petronius Jul 2012 #21
Where does YouTube come into it? redqueen Jul 2012 #22
What I mean is, achieving popularity on YouTube or other social media petronius Jul 2012 #23
i thought the title not going with article, too seabeyond Jul 2012 #24
Many of the commenters at CNN redqueen Jul 2012 #26
Ohhhhh... redqueen Jul 2012 #25
I don't know about YouTube. Irishonly Jul 2012 #35
Seriously, fuck this guy. redqueen Jul 2012 #8
this was the conditioned male comment that so many repeat so often. no, i did not like this seabeyond Jul 2012 #12
It's not a caricature. redqueen Jul 2012 #14
the caricature is the belief that male sexuality is be all, end all, the universe is all about the seabeyond Jul 2012 #15
The way he tears down these women, whom he doesn't even know... redqueen Jul 2012 #16
see, i am not necessarily seeing that. seabeyond Jul 2012 #17
What makes you think his claim has any merit whatsoever? redqueen Jul 2012 #18
i am not a part of the culture and i do not know anything about it. i do not know seabeyond Jul 2012 #19
Yeah, most female characters in geek cultute are sexualized. redqueen Jul 2012 #20
Exactly...What about men who pretend to be feminists and God knows what else whathehell Jul 2012 #53
nothing like listening to tell a bunch of women who they are, what the feel, what they should say seabeyond Jul 2012 #54
All one needs to do is ask one of these "booth babes" questions siouxsiecreamcheese Jul 2012 #27
I never had to put up with that type of crap. seabeyond Jul 2012 #28
Speaking of the real thing... Xipe Totec Jul 2012 #29
I'd say she's a nerd. redqueen Jul 2012 #30
One of my favorite nerds passed away on Monday Xipe Totec Jul 2012 #31
Suddenly, blowback. redqueen Jul 2012 #32
here is another article on cnn talking about that article. seabeyond Jul 2012 #34
6 of 9 is a comparison to STVoyagers 7 of 9 One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #36
Did you read it? There's no room for any doubt. redqueen Jul 2012 #37
Rolled a 2? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #38
Wife? redqueen Jul 2012 #39
Ever been to a comic con? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #41
I've been to science fiction cons, comic cons, and a few other kinds. redqueen Jul 2012 #42
and yet another article, another perspective of this mans opinion in the original OP seabeyond Jul 2012 #45
Outstanding. SO glad she wrote this response. redqueen Jul 2012 #46
she has a lot of good points and the overwhelming that girls have to be "approved" seabeyond Jul 2012 #47
Yeah, that really pissed me off in the original editorial... redqueen Jul 2012 #48
As an attendee of many trade shows, booth babes are insulting. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #49
thank you. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #50
Well said. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #51
Fine. More booth babes for me. :) RandySF Jul 2012 #52
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