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redqueen

(115,186 posts)
32. Suddenly, blowback.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:18 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/25/geek-girl-on-the-street-reports-joe-peacock-needs-to-stfu/

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For those of you who have not read Joe’s CNN opus ragging on booth babes, Olivia Munn and Frag Dolls, let me sum up the thesis for you: Our friend Joe is complaining about the fact that multi-billion dollar corporations like FOX, FX and Maxim hire scantily clad women to pimp their products and hang all over geek boys at cons and con related parties. He is complaining about young women – who have been inundated with images of “what’s hot, what’s cool” all their lives by the mainstream media – following in the example of said scantily clad women and putting on scantily clad costumes of their own creation and parading around cons with the objective of getting male attention.

In essence, he is complaining about a problem which has been created by… wait for it… men.

And, in the process, he “slut shames” women who choose to express their own sexuality via cosplay (regardless of the underlying intent, it’s their choice and fuck you for telling them what is or is not right in that arena, it’s their body) and the experiential learning which comes with that process… which is in the end, controlled by the reactions of men.

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The true problem is that corporate culture – based on the knowledge that some men sexually desire women that look a particular way and that some male geeks have money – take advantage of and exploit those known factors by hiring sexually attractive women to pimp their products in attempts to devoid said geeky men of said money. Instead of addressing this and the underlying societal causes of this trope, Joe blames the women who the perpetrator companies employ.

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This next one is really worth reading the whole thing... sooooo good.


http://www.chickswithcrossbows.com/?p=1800

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The person wrong on the internet is this dude right here. While he attempts to offer criticism on the phenomenon of booth babes–something I also find troubling–Joe Peacock manages to write a piece positively dripping with the underlying sexism that is ubiquitous in nerd culture. The lists of sins Peacock commits in this article is long and tragically overshadows any valid points he has. However, I will attempt to address the main points best I can.

Instead of tackling the real underlying problem in my opinion–that corporations think it’s a great idea to use half-naked women to sell their products–he instead attacks the women themselves. Sorry, perhaps “women” is the wrong term. He’s talking about “wannabes who couldn’t make it as car show eye candy slapping on a Batman shirt and strutting around comic book conventions instead.”

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So, what’s the problem with these women exactly? Other than simply not being genuinely interested in nerd culture, they just aren’t all that attractive. Peacock claims that in the non-nerd world, these girls would only measure up to a 6. However, simply by dressing up in nerdy costumes they ascend to a 9. So these women dress up in revealing clothing, think they’re way hotter than they really are, and bask in the attention of dudes who they totally wouldn’t actually sleep with? Those bitches.

Holy objectification, Batman! Not only did this guy just demonize feminine displays of sexuality, but he goes as far to describe women using a number as if her lack of attractiveness somehow degrades her worth as a human being. Even more confounding is that Peacock goes on to link to the fantastic Fat, Ugly, or Slutty without realizing that he is, in a form much more subtle than that website shows, helping to promote and perpetuate some of the very misogynist attitudes that give rise to the harassment he himself is obviously opposed to.

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Booth babes need not apply [View all] seabeyond Jul 2012 OP
I suppose it's all a matter of personal taste. I like geeky "Library Girl" types... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #1
"grown men as 13 year old boys who like to objectify women". seabeyond Jul 2012 #3
I wish you and I would live to see a time when the popular media would stop... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #5
so true and agree totally. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #6
cue: Where the Boys Are annabanana Jul 2012 #2
Where the Boys Are seabeyond Jul 2012 #4
as a "woman of a certain age" annabanana Jul 2012 #9
mad man really bugs me becuase with the step back that we have made of late seabeyond Jul 2012 #10
I think "Mad Men" is doing the opposite of reinforcing sexism. PassingFair Jul 2012 #33
Your post reminds me of something I read about All In The Family. redqueen Jul 2012 #40
come away feeling validated and happy with the show's dialogue. seabeyond Jul 2012 #43
I don't watch it, but if it's presented in such a way, redqueen Jul 2012 #44
Fuck this guy. redqueen Jul 2012 #7
this is seabeyond Jul 2012 #11
He is being an ass. redqueen Jul 2012 #13
Despite the title, I actually don't think he's talking about the paid models petronius Jul 2012 #21
Where does YouTube come into it? redqueen Jul 2012 #22
What I mean is, achieving popularity on YouTube or other social media petronius Jul 2012 #23
i thought the title not going with article, too seabeyond Jul 2012 #24
Many of the commenters at CNN redqueen Jul 2012 #26
Ohhhhh... redqueen Jul 2012 #25
I don't know about YouTube. Irishonly Jul 2012 #35
Seriously, fuck this guy. redqueen Jul 2012 #8
this was the conditioned male comment that so many repeat so often. no, i did not like this seabeyond Jul 2012 #12
It's not a caricature. redqueen Jul 2012 #14
the caricature is the belief that male sexuality is be all, end all, the universe is all about the seabeyond Jul 2012 #15
The way he tears down these women, whom he doesn't even know... redqueen Jul 2012 #16
see, i am not necessarily seeing that. seabeyond Jul 2012 #17
What makes you think his claim has any merit whatsoever? redqueen Jul 2012 #18
i am not a part of the culture and i do not know anything about it. i do not know seabeyond Jul 2012 #19
Yeah, most female characters in geek cultute are sexualized. redqueen Jul 2012 #20
Exactly...What about men who pretend to be feminists and God knows what else whathehell Jul 2012 #53
nothing like listening to tell a bunch of women who they are, what the feel, what they should say seabeyond Jul 2012 #54
All one needs to do is ask one of these "booth babes" questions siouxsiecreamcheese Jul 2012 #27
I never had to put up with that type of crap. seabeyond Jul 2012 #28
Speaking of the real thing... Xipe Totec Jul 2012 #29
I'd say she's a nerd. redqueen Jul 2012 #30
One of my favorite nerds passed away on Monday Xipe Totec Jul 2012 #31
Suddenly, blowback. redqueen Jul 2012 #32
here is another article on cnn talking about that article. seabeyond Jul 2012 #34
6 of 9 is a comparison to STVoyagers 7 of 9 One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #36
Did you read it? There's no room for any doubt. redqueen Jul 2012 #37
Rolled a 2? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #38
Wife? redqueen Jul 2012 #39
Ever been to a comic con? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #41
I've been to science fiction cons, comic cons, and a few other kinds. redqueen Jul 2012 #42
and yet another article, another perspective of this mans opinion in the original OP seabeyond Jul 2012 #45
Outstanding. SO glad she wrote this response. redqueen Jul 2012 #46
she has a lot of good points and the overwhelming that girls have to be "approved" seabeyond Jul 2012 #47
Yeah, that really pissed me off in the original editorial... redqueen Jul 2012 #48
As an attendee of many trade shows, booth babes are insulting. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #49
thank you. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #50
Well said. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #51
Fine. More booth babes for me. :) RandySF Jul 2012 #52
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