women, please tell your experience. some men do not get it. 19, 10pm, college campus

[ismnotwasm]

82. Ah yes. The nice guy.

To put my answer in perspective here, my life has been a kind of a continuum--I started out as a 'bad girl' lived on the streets, lo and behold 35 years later, I'm a registered nurse and a grandmother of five. So the 'bad boy' bullshit passed me by, because the people I knew at one time were rotten in a way most people aren't exposed to-- and I'm not stupid, nor gullible. No bad boys for me. The term means something different to me than most.

So a man being a being a quiet, nice guy has a lot of value to me. I married a nice guy, a little rough around the edges, but so am I.

So where are you looking for these ladies? Clubs, bars, work, school? Is there a quiet 'nice' woman around that just doesn't ring your bell? Do you give her a chance?

To me watching middleclass mating rituals only heightens my sense that men think they need to be predatory in order to 'succeed'-- it's worse in lower socioeconomic classes, but more honest in a way.

Women are conditioned to expect these behaviors, but often don't have the experience to sort the wheat from the chaff so to speak. There is a sexual element as women are also exposed to a lot of bullshit regarding their sexuality. Women are STILL faking orgasms, for instance in numbers ridiculous for this day and age.


Last, I work with a ton of young women who are smart, educated and do know what they want. They complain that men are disrespectful and unreliable (ok, maybe they don't use those words)
The ones who are in relationships, all are with 'nice guys'. So don't give up hope.