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In reply to the discussion: Are Lutherans alienated/bashed here? [View all]turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)First thought: someone has chosen the "wide road" over that "narrow path". And the price from that venom has led yet another person to be discouraged and angered, and you cannot blame that young person. Good for her for her response.
It is a precarious frustrating place JNelson6563. The Loudest voices get heard the easiest.
Still, at another time the "leaders at the Temple', the Pharisees and Sadducees, also screamed from the pulpit about the Law given to Moses, and the one time one particular person became angry was at the moneylenders in the Temple. Not much as changed, the greatest harm is done by those who KNOW better, and if they don't know better then they aren't studying the training manual.
In 1974 a Louis H. Valbracht wrote a small book, called "The Follies of Fundamentalism"- am sure he had NO idea how destructive his "observations" would be in 2012.
I am sorry for the experience. The Creator I believe in, the one who has sustained and carried me repeatedly when there were no options for my independent self, the same one who likely wishes I would lose a few pounds. This is NOT a cruel, vicious, hate-mongering Creator, quite the opposite. Dunno perhaps my close friend of fifty years is right, she wrote God put His mark on us long ago. BUT the Creator I believe doesn't make preferences, isn't myopic and sure likely isn't pleased with the Fundies. I know they sure make it difficult to follow the Gospels in daily life. Laws are "matter, they have form and take up space", Spirituality cannot be seen or touched.
Last week after one of my rants about the destruction caused by the likes of some names I won't mention here, but Hagee is one of them. A friend said "How tragic. When we are afraid, we have our faith to keep us hopefilled, but wouldn't they be even more afraid?"
I dunno. I am not quick to comprehend, have to do this 360 of walk, squat and ponder-and sometimes in more circles than most merry-go-rounds.
Yet "you will know them by their fruits", and these fruits by some are impossible to swallow or enjoy.
A third time I say it: I am sorry for this event. The Best shepherd/teacher is Gentle.
For what its worth: there are three synods among Lutherans, the Wisconsin is the harshest; the Mo. well when in church school, my dad who paid for my education as well as the taxes for public schools, was not allowed to be a member, because he was a Mason, came from a long line of Masons and a Union member, which explains why he was a Mason-neither he nor I were pleased. The ELCA is the newest, and by far the gentler.
Yet a few years ago there was a huge rift because the intent was to allow and welcome homosexuals as ministers- some minds are just cemented! Even at my little church here, way out in the hills, we now have a woman pastor, AND she brought in more than just organ music- a few are outraged, while most of us aren't sure it matters what instrument makes a "joyful noise".
All I can do is pray for an Epiphany, and AHA moment.
Peace be to you -