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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
4. pop quiz
Sun May 26, 2013, 06:06 PM
May 2013

johnston: .. it allows some private citizens, retired cops, to buy guns and magizines other New Yorkers can not. If you agree with this, then should I, as retired military, be exempt from the National Firearms Act of 1934 and have a full auto?

Yes I agree with it, and no you shouldn't have a full auto since the excops wouldn't be allowed to either (see false dilemma in your book of fallacies you so often tout, johnston).
How in the world did you jump from excops being allowed to keep assault rifles they purchased when on active duty, to you being allowed to purchase an automatic ak47? a leap of faith? o ye who never met a meaty gun control law he didn't like? (bgchecks are not guncontrol - manchin/toomey).
And your OP remark is invalid anyway, unless I read it wrong, the revision would allow excops only to retain assault rifles & clips purchased when they were on active duty, not allowed to purchase any new ones, which would be in violation of the NY safe act.

j: Are cops and former cops more law abiding than the rest of us? Unless I see studies saying otherwise, I think not.+

No but they're better gun handlers than the average gunowner, & more responsible than the average gunnut, and generally are NOT gunnuts. Also, posting 5 links to police brutality proves really nothing except you're trying to gild your false dilemma.

And which of those gun control laws do you support johnston? do you support
A. Limiting clips to 10 rounds? as per recent obama/biden?
B. feinsteins' recent assault weapons/rifle ban (awb)?
C. I know you support at least Manchin toomey bgcheck, which failed, but do you support the earlier universal bg check proposal?
D. Do you support more fed funding for gun violence research?
E. Do you think US guncontrol laws affect gun suicide rates for the better?

I already know what you think of 'may issue' concealed carry laws:
johnston: it would be best to eliminate may issue to shall issue. I think may issue violates the 14th Amendment. The problem states are those with gun laws closer to your {may issue} liking. I don't see it changing in those states because of the classism in the gun control movement. The other may issue states, like Alabama and Maryland, are more ummmmmm race based than class. Texas, Florida, Wyoming, New Mexico have standards. New York and California do not. See the difference?
.. As much as gun control advocates bad mouth Texas laws, at least they have stringent training requirements that are uniform statewide.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1172110291 have a nyth day.

In my ideal world, NO private citizen EXCEPT city/state/fed law enforcer ONLY while on duty graham4anything May 2013 #1
I understand that. gejohnston May 2013 #2
They keep changing this law... bobclark86 May 2013 #3
pop quiz jimmy the one May 2013 #4
my reply gejohnston May 2013 #5
pop quiz results jimmy the one May 2013 #6
my "teacher" feedback gejohnston May 2013 #7
eagerly awaiting the whole truth, & nothing but jimmy the one May 2013 #8
last time gejohnston May 2013 #10
guncontrol & firearm suicide rates jimmy the one May 2013 #9
I was hoping gejohnston May 2013 #11
devil's advocate outed jimmy the one May 2013 #12
Why am I here? gejohnston May 2013 #13
Nice try, but you billh58 May 2013 #14
let me get this straight gejohnston May 2013 #15
Well the first billh58 May 2013 #18
+1 CreekDog May 2013 #25
fair & square jimmy the one May 2013 #16
actually no gejohnston May 2013 #17
copblock, such the reputable source jimmy the one May 2013 #19
which reminds me gejohnston May 2013 #20
Ahh, gejohnston. Long time, man. DanTex May 2013 #21
When I saw this gejohnston May 2013 #22
A common theme among anti gun control posters is that the laws should apply to law enforcement CreekDog May 2013 #23
perhaps, but gejohnston May 2013 #24
spinning the same top on M/T jimmy the one May 2013 #26
without an FFL in your own state gejohnston May 2013 #27
suddenly jimmy the one May 2013 #28
Thanks for the billh58 May 2013 #29
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