johnston, on seeing the empirical evidence I posted on suicide rates: I was hoping actual studies where I can read the methodology.
What now johnston? I'm supposed to spoon feed each actual study's results to you or something? What I posted WAS based upon empirical evidence, go be your own research monkey; I'm not going to turn a thread into your private reading room where you'd only tapdance around & blow smoke, your typical posting style as is becoming evident to others.
What are doing here anyway? you so rabidly progun. I realize why you started this thread, a devil's advocate trying to appear you support some token aspect of the raw NY SAFE law, by claiming you think excops should be banned from superclips & assault rifles, whereas you oppose the NYSafe law in itself, as well as awbs in general .
You really wanted to bash NY police, dintcha? as being not as good as rightwing cops like in texas, right? To bash new york cops, & other liberal police agencies, like you did below, answering rdharma where punks could get illegal guns - not gun shops, but police depts & the fed agcy BATFE:
1.. rdharman asked: How did the punks get the gatts? {guns}
2 .. Response to rdharma May 17, 2013 gejohnston under aged and had convictions one was on bail for a weapons charge. So, he didn't get them at Leroux's Gun and Gumbo. Where? several places. NYPD, KCPD, ATF, LAPD, and no story is complete without .http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1172122887
johnston argues against NY SAFE act: #57 state constitution requires the waiting period and the leg{islature} didn't read it. He {Cuomo} either respects the NY Constitution or he doesn't. I give the law five months, and it won't make the state safer any more than USVI's strict gun laws making it safer. Besides, as a liberal and believer in rule of law, Coumo's stunt just as unacceptable as if he were some Republican wanting to restrict womens health access. To give him a free ride just because he is Dem and pushing what some would be a progressive cause would be hypocritical. Besides, the gun control movement has a hard time making rational, fallacy free arguments that often boil down to name calling. I can't honestly support such a cause. http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1172112383
same first link: 2 gejohnston .. about that bad logic .. why do gun control advocates string so many logical fallacies together to make their arguments? You didn't parrot anything. That really is the level of discourse that antis use around here
3 gejohnston 30. I'd say you would be the one blinded I have yet to see a logical argument from the gun hatey crowd. I do see a lot of post hoc ergo propter hoc, glittering generalities, appeals to emotion, name calling, but nothing remotely rational. BTW, those "every studies" are usually paid for by the same foundation that astro turfs VPC and Brady Center and not likely peer reviewed.
4 gejohnston (12,608 posts) 10. When antis use the false comparison of US vs UK or Japan
5 I doubt it is as big of a joke as VPC. .. OUTED. http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1172119229
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