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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
32. MG v Kennesaw stats
Fri May 31, 2013, 01:23 PM
May 2013

gsc: I said nothing about crime rates.

That's immaterial. If you say it's a publicity stunt then gun guru kopel has no right to claim it was a reason for a drop in burglary rates in kennesaw soon after implementation. Nor does the kennesaw cop I cite below, nor anyone else.

gsc: A law that is not enforced and designed to be unenforceable, amounts to nothing more than a publicity stunt. Their goal was to flip the bird to MG, and by extension to gun banners, nothing more.

I don't disagree it wasn't some kind of hocus pocus, perhaps to counter da grove, but here is what an apparent kennesaw cop said back then: Police Lt. Craig Graydon said: “When the Kennesaw law was passed in 1982 there was a substantial drop in crime {untrue, burg rates went down} … and we have maintained a really low crime rate since then. We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area.”a progun link tho, mostly propaganda: http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/

gsc: I simply noted that they haven't had any gun deaths. However, most small communities don't have gun deaths in any given year, or decade for that matter. Outside of large cities gun deaths are fairly rare.

City crime comparison tables prior to 2008 heller, are pretty much gone now, & only list post 2008 stats, but I had followed the comparisons for about 10-15 yrs & Morton Grove consistenly outperformed Kennesaw in violent crime (~30% lower) & property crime, & parity in murder (as you say so little it was under 2 or 3 in each city yearly, iirc).
The crime rate stats between the two cities have been similar to the 2010 stats below, for the whole time I've been observing, with the exception that kennesaw has since split into 2 zips & for one property crime about parity (but MG slightly better), the other MG about 30% less property crime:
2010 Crime Rate Kennesaw, GA Morton Grove, IL US
Total Crime Risk ...56 ..........35 ........100
Murder Risk ........27 ..........15 ........100
Rape Risk ..........46 ..........42 .........100
Robbery Risk .......38 ..........15 .........100
Assault Risk .......16 ..........47 .........100
Burglary Risk ......54 ..........41 ........100
Larceny Risk .......64 ..........83 .........100
AutoTheft Risk .....67 ..........33 .........100

http://www.clrsearch.com/Kennesaw-Demographics/Ga/Crime-Rate?compare=morton+grove+illinois

I'm pro 2nd ammend...but this is stupid. nt clarice May 2013 #1
Millions of stupid gun nuts/cultists out there, and that is the problem. Hoyt May 2013 #3
Wow, that's a VERY broad brush you are painting with. nt clarice May 2013 #4
Extensive experience, mostly with right wing bigoted gunners. Hoyt May 2013 #9
No! I said the law was stupid. I just don't like stereotypes. nt clarice May 2013 #10
If it fits. . . . . . . Go to a gun show or store, and see what you think. Hoyt May 2013 #11
www.theliberalgunclub.com clarice May 2013 #12
Yeah right. Go to a gun show, take some photos. Hoyt May 2013 #13
I don't judge people by their appearance.nt clarice May 2013 #14
Does not surprise me. I guess you think these militia men are Democrats? Hoyt May 2013 #15
I have no idea what their political affiliation is. And I don't presume to know.nt clarice May 2013 #16
I'd be willing to bet you DO know what their political affiliation is. And you know you do. Squinch May 2013 #18
Um...ok.....next? nt clarice May 2013 #26
stinking up my thread on Oklahoma tordadoes and climate change CreekDog May 2013 #27
Um...ok.....next? nt clarice May 2013 #28
That's typical of that poster clarice. rl6214 May 2013 #21
Thanks for the welcome.... clarice May 2013 #25
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Bizarre. Laelth May 2013 #2
That's Nucla CO Autumn May 2013 #5
I wish they would pass that in my town. bluedigger May 2013 #7
I believe that it the town where they hold a annual prairie dog shoot. El Supremo May 2013 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #22
Looks like the RW version of government tryanny by forcing one to support the gun industry. freshwest May 2013 #8
you MUST, unless you don't want to jimmy the one May 2013 #17
Bunch of idiots being idiotic. Squinch May 2013 #19
I think that's as ridiculous as passing an ordinance banning all guns. rl6214 May 2013 #20
Kennesaw, GA, did that in 1982. GreenStormCloud May 2013 #29
publicity stunt? jimmy the one May 2013 #30
Others can claim what they want. GreenStormCloud May 2013 #31
MG v Kennesaw stats jimmy the one May 2013 #32
Your logic is in error. GreenStormCloud May 2013 #34
my logic is fine jimmy the one Jun 2013 #36
I am under no obligation to support Kopel or anybody else. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #39
kennesaw's mayor lowballed, er, underreported jimmy the one May 2013 #33
While I believe everyone should have the means to protect their family, ileus May 2013 #35
What exactly do you mean by "personal protection devices"? Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #37
Dan Baum in "Gun Guys" makes the same point. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #38
Thank you! Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #40
You have given me an idea for a thread. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #41
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