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K&R nt Mnemosyne Nov 2014 #1
K&R peacebird Nov 2014 #2
K & R L0oniX Nov 2014 #3
The things health insurance industry had, that the government did not and GOP would not approve Hoyt Nov 2014 #4
Although I find logical the majority of yr post , the end statement truedelphi Nov 2014 #13
I hear you, but here's the thing. You can buy health insurance that covers any hospital, Hoyt Nov 2014 #16
Well, as I understand it, when the Government administers Medicaid, the overhead is 3%. But now that sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #25
Government doesn't administer most of Medicare, private insurance companies do. Hoyt Nov 2014 #26
Dems defect because of weak leadership. That should not happen if we had strong Democratic sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #27
I wish you success in straightening the mess out with all your answers. Hoyt Nov 2014 #28
The answer is obvious. The Dem Party needs to represent the people who elect them. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #29
Exactly just like Social Security has a low overhead (6% I think). And they want to privatize that jwirr Nov 2014 #50
My daughter has been on Medicaid for many years and here in MN it has almost always been jwirr Nov 2014 #48
To bad no government program has ever changed after it was first passed. jeff47 Nov 2014 #5
Oh btw BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #6
There's talk of the governor re-entrenching. jeff47 Nov 2014 #12
Except I wasn't arguing that position BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #17
healthcare without profit?! redruddyred Nov 2014 #8
heritage care does not need to "change". it needs to be undone. Doctor_J Nov 2014 #19
That is what people are doing now. Realizing they have no voice in DC, people are focusing on sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #30
In this I and my family are some of the luckiest people in the world. MN has MNCare. Most of us opt jwirr Nov 2014 #49
the ACA was definitely a compromise redruddyred Nov 2014 #7
The first step is to end corporate brainwashing -- aka consolidated media propaganda RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #10
Corporate brainwashing. I absolutely agree. Maineman Nov 2014 #20
Close to 90 percent of Californians supported GMO labeling at the outset RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #23
oh that's such a shame redruddyred Nov 2014 #57
The problem is that what little media we do have are know only by people like us. The closest we jwirr Nov 2014 #51
Start with Pacifica RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #52
Okay that is a start but how do we get the ordinary voter to listen to them? I considerate it an jwirr Nov 2014 #53
The people DID vote, in 2008. Did you forget that we worked hard and WON? There was a mandate sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #31
It looked like this.... Enthusiast Nov 2014 #36
I remember, Dems had so much support to do what needed to be done as fast as they could. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #39
Just imagine how effective a bully pulpit could have been at that moment. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #42
Yes, completely squandered. The question is 'why'? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #44
I won't say it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #45
Good post (nt) Babel_17 Nov 2014 #38
and yet it passed the senate by a single vote. redruddyred Nov 2014 #58
K & R. Totally agree with the quote about the public option, too. RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #9
The politics of fear. 'Let's not try something because they will destroy it even if we succeed.' sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #40
How did you figure to get it through Congress otherwise? aquart Nov 2014 #11
How did FDR get the legislation he wanted passed to go truedelphi Nov 2014 #14
FDR's congress was LOADED with Democrats. There simply is no comparison. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #24
You are re-writing history. Obama got in back in 2008, and was inaugurated in 2009. truedelphi Nov 2014 #32
Exactly, and I remember Jan, 2008. There were high hopes that Dems would move swiftly on sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #37
Thank you, truedelphi. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #35
And Enthusiast, thank you too. I was actually a bit truedelphi Nov 2014 #56
d'you think obama could've been elected redruddyred Nov 2014 #59
Obama = Goldman Sachs. truedelphi Nov 2014 #63
opensecrets says that UC was his biggest donor. redruddyred Nov 2014 #64
Until two years ago, Richard Blum, Sen Di Feinstein's husband, truedelphi Nov 2014 #65
Did any Republicans vote for the ACA? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #41
Correct and it also involves having the facts at hand and making sure they are the right facts. From jwirr Nov 2014 #47
By Democrats simply doing their job. When I don't do my job, I get fired. Zorra Nov 2014 #62
I highly recommend Wendell Potter's 'Deadly Spin' on the subject. n/t Triana Nov 2014 #15
Me too! Maineman Nov 2014 #21
Corporations are always going to make out like bandits. I would rather have them make out while kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #18
That's one of the main reasons for starting this group— Enthusiast Nov 2014 #34
And I would rather we stop them from making out like bandits, which is what they are. And helping sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #43
The exact plan that the fascists rolled out in 1994 Doctor_J Nov 2014 #22
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #33
No real arguement. However I think the Medicaid expansion is a real positive. Many of the people jwirr Nov 2014 #46
Here is why, jwirr truedelphi Nov 2014 #54
I had forgotten that aspect. Now I understand. My reasoning was that Medicaid pays for everything jwirr Nov 2014 #55
Kicked & Reed /nt demwing Nov 2014 #60
Kicked for visability /nt demwing Nov 2014 #61
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