healthcare without profit?! (Reply #8)

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Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:47 PM

8. healthcare without profit?!

the heresy! if cancer patients aren't losing their houses and going hundreds of thousands into debt for pharmaceutical company approved non-treatment then we're doing something wrong.

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Understanding the Corporate Welfare Giveaway known as the ACA... [View all]	truedelphi	Nov 2014	OP
K&R nt	Mnemosyne	Nov 2014	#1
K&R	peacebird	Nov 2014	#2
K & R	L0oniX	Nov 2014	#3
The things health insurance industry had, that the government did not and GOP would not approve	Hoyt	Nov 2014	#4
Although I find logical the majority of yr post , the end statement	truedelphi	Nov 2014	#13
I hear you, but here's the thing. You can buy health insurance that covers any hospital,	Hoyt	Nov 2014	#16
Well, as I understand it, when the Government administers Medicaid, the overhead is 3%. But now that	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#25
Government doesn't administer most of Medicare, private insurance companies do.	Hoyt	Nov 2014	#26
Dems defect because of weak leadership. That should not happen if we had strong Democratic	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#27
I wish you success in straightening the mess out with all your answers.	Hoyt	Nov 2014	#28
The answer is obvious. The Dem Party needs to represent the people who elect them.	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#29
Exactly just like Social Security has a low overhead (6% I think). And they want to privatize that	jwirr	Nov 2014	#50
My daughter has been on Medicaid for many years and here in MN it has almost always been	jwirr	Nov 2014	#48
To bad no government program has ever changed after it was first passed.	jeff47	Nov 2014	#5
Oh btw	BlindTiresias	Nov 2014	#6
There's talk of the governor re-entrenching.	jeff47	Nov 2014	#12
Except I wasn't arguing that position	BlindTiresias	Nov 2014	#17
healthcare without profit?!	redruddyred	Nov 2014	#8
heritage care does not need to "change". it needs to be undone.	Doctor_J	Nov 2014	#19
That is what people are doing now. Realizing they have no voice in DC, people are focusing on	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#30
In this I and my family are some of the luckiest people in the world. MN has MNCare. Most of us opt	jwirr	Nov 2014	#49
the ACA was definitely a compromise	redruddyred	Nov 2014	#7
The first step is to end corporate brainwashing -- aka consolidated media propaganda	RufusTFirefly	Nov 2014	#10
Corporate brainwashing. I absolutely agree.	Maineman	Nov 2014	#20
Close to 90 percent of Californians supported GMO labeling at the outset	RufusTFirefly	Nov 2014	#23
oh that's such a shame	redruddyred	Nov 2014	#57
The problem is that what little media we do have are know only by people like us. The closest we	jwirr	Nov 2014	#51
Start with Pacifica	RufusTFirefly	Nov 2014	#52
Okay that is a start but how do we get the ordinary voter to listen to them? I considerate it an	jwirr	Nov 2014	#53
The people DID vote, in 2008. Did you forget that we worked hard and WON? There was a mandate	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#31
It looked like this....	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#36
I remember, Dems had so much support to do what needed to be done as fast as they could.	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#39
Just imagine how effective a bully pulpit could have been at that moment.	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#42
Yes, completely squandered. The question is 'why'?	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#44
I won't say it.	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#45
Good post (nt)	Babel_17	Nov 2014	#38
and yet it passed the senate by a single vote.	redruddyred	Nov 2014	#58
K & R. Totally agree with the quote about the public option, too.	RufusTFirefly	Nov 2014	#9
The politics of fear. 'Let's not try something because they will destroy it even if we succeed.'	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#40
How did you figure to get it through Congress otherwise?	aquart	Nov 2014	#11
How did FDR get the legislation he wanted passed to go	truedelphi	Nov 2014	#14
FDR's congress was LOADED with Democrats. There simply is no comparison.	NYC_SKP	Nov 2014	#24
You are re-writing history. Obama got in back in 2008, and was inaugurated in 2009.	truedelphi	Nov 2014	#32
Exactly, and I remember Jan, 2008. There were high hopes that Dems would move swiftly on	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#37
Thank you, truedelphi.	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#35
And Enthusiast, thank you too. I was actually a bit	truedelphi	Nov 2014	#56
d'you think obama could've been elected	redruddyred	Nov 2014	#59
Obama = Goldman Sachs.	truedelphi	Nov 2014	#63
opensecrets says that UC was his biggest donor.	redruddyred	Nov 2014	#64
Until two years ago, Richard Blum, Sen Di Feinstein's husband,	truedelphi	Nov 2014	#65
Did any Republicans vote for the ACA?	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#41
Correct and it also involves having the facts at hand and making sure they are the right facts. From	jwirr	Nov 2014	#47
By Democrats simply doing their job. When I don't do my job, I get fired.	Zorra	Nov 2014	#62
I highly recommend Wendell Potter's 'Deadly Spin' on the subject. n/t	Triana	Nov 2014	#15
Me too!	Maineman	Nov 2014	#21
Corporations are always going to make out like bandits. I would rather have them make out while	kelliekat44	Nov 2014	#18
That's one of the main reasons for starting this group—	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#34
And I would rather we stop them from making out like bandits, which is what they are. And helping	sabrina 1	Nov 2014	#43
The exact plan that the fascists rolled out in 1994	Doctor_J	Nov 2014	#22
Kicked and recommended!	Enthusiast	Nov 2014	#33
No real arguement. However I think the Medicaid expansion is a real positive. Many of the people	jwirr	Nov 2014	#46
Here is why, jwirr	truedelphi	Nov 2014	#54
I had forgotten that aspect. Now I understand. My reasoning was that Medicaid pays for everything	jwirr	Nov 2014	#55
Kicked & Reed /nt	demwing	Nov 2014	#60
Kicked for visability /nt	demwing	Nov 2014	#61

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