Bernie Sanders

L0oniX

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3. We're here to learn more about our candidate, foment active involvement in the campaign,

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:38 PM

Apr 2015

promote financial support, discuss the merit of his points, discuss his positive and negative aspects with the preponderance of the positive.
Fact checking is always a good thing IMO even if it occasionally reflects a negative point about our candidate. I don't expect a perfect candidate. Of course the standard DU rules forbid calling out other members directly. Calling out other groups can also get a hide. I have seen it happen. On the other hand I hope group members do not take the "haven" aspect as a excuse to behave like some other groups that seemingly go over board. We all can and should give praise to the merits, ideas and stance on the issues our candidate addresses ...and criticize them if there is a legit reason to do so. I don't think there will be many legit opportunities to criticize Bernie. He looks to be our best hope to rescue this country from the 1% and it's corruption of our Democracy.

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I'd like to have two pinned threads for this Group... and I need everyone's input! [View all] Agschmid Apr 2015 OP

What I'd like not to see? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #1

Agree. Agschmid Apr 2015 #2

I think the wording is fine as is. TM99 Apr 2015 #6

"only positive" aspirant May 2015 #17

You are right. This does appear to be virtually identical to the others, as will the result. leveymg May 2015 #27

I agree. Agschmid May 2015 #28

I'm very happy that you agree. :-) leveymg May 2015 #31

Indeed! Agschmid May 2015 #32

"As a progressive left" aspirant May 2015 #37

The rules of decorum and civility apply equally across DU leveymg May 2015 #41

Are "Bernie can't win" posts in this group something that should be left to a jury? smokey nj May 2015 #47

Should we also exclude major poll results if they aren't encouraging enough? leveymg May 2015 #49

Negative Poll results aspirant May 2015 #59

If the whole point of a given "Bernie Can't Win" post Jackpine Radical May 2015 #110

Is this a serious political arm aspirant May 2015 #48

Either way you are subject to the jury system. Agschmid May 2015 #57

Subject also to the hosts. A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #58

A home has a family aspirant May 2015 #64

Not sure if you know A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #70

Thanks, nice to know aspirant May 2015 #74

But so are our rules to limit alerts aspirant May 2015 #61

Thanks. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #108

What is the purpose and difference of a group compared to another GD? aspirant May 2015 #33

So you want the Bernie Sanders Group to be just like GD? If that's the case then I don't see the smokey nj May 2015 #71

We're here to learn more about our candidate, foment active involvement in the campaign, L0oniX Apr 2015 #3

Good post. Agschmid Apr 2015 #7

Discuss "negative point(s) about our candidate" aspirant May 2015 #16

Gotta agree with that. Those "helpful" OP's are, to put it mildly, passive aggressive bullshit. djean111 May 2015 #26

Haven't seen much/any of it yet. Agschmid May 2015 #34

"we should avoid it" aspirant May 2015 #39

That's what I said... Agschmid May 2015 #51

Then do what you say and remove it aspirant May 2015 #54

Remove what? What are you talking about? Agschmid May 2015 #56

Either we should avoid it or we shouldn't aspirant May 2015 #68

I am referriing to those condescending OPs which explain why Bernie does not have a chance. djean111 May 2015 #45

Not just OPs, I'm more concerned about passive aggressive smokey nj May 2015 #76

Hey Smokey nj aspirant May 2015 #78

I wouldn't want to see those supposed negatives tolerated here. L0oniX May 2015 #79

We won't see the age thing too much from those who support other candidates who are djean111 May 2015 #81

It would be obvious if someone was using a negative to hammer on Bernie. L0oniX May 2015 #77

The problem is if aspirant May 2015 #82

Yes. Havens should be used as a shield, not a sword. morningfog Apr 2015 #4

I agree. Good point. BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #9

Do we not criticize(discuss) Obama with the TPP, safety net cuts or a corporate budget aspirant May 2015 #15

Unless you're specifically pointing out how Bernie is different on such issues Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #21

Yup. Agschmid May 2015 #23

Good, aspirant May 2015 #40

+1 L0oniX May 2015 #80

Agree. That happened in the Warren group and, as harsh a critic as I've been of blm May 2015 #60

His official website is in my sigline - TBF Apr 2015 #5

and to organize, and brainstorm, hopefully. nt G_j Apr 2015 #8

+1 daleanime Apr 2015 #10

Assist in local and Grass Roots organizing aspirant May 2015 #18

I would like the second thread to be BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #11

Done! Agschmid Apr 2015 #13

I think the campaign twitter account is https://twitter.com/berniesanders Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #12

Corrected, thanks! Agschmid Apr 2015 #14

Just posted some videos in the BB. joshcryer May 2015 #19

Thanks! Agschmid May 2015 #24

SOP aspirant May 2015 #20

What do other people think about this part? Agschmid May 2015 #25

I think it's pretty negative that people who don't want Bernie to win come here and remind us smokey nj May 2015 #29

I think I copied that section from L0onix post, maybe they can share what they meant? Agschmid May 2015 #30

To put it kindly ...that is most likely not going to be tolerated. L0oniX May 2015 #94

As for mandating a "preponderance of the positive," who will keep score? leveymg May 2015 #35

I think the intention is the hosts will do this. Agschmid May 2015 #36

That's the point. Should we give the hosts the power to apply a "too much negative" rule? leveymg May 2015 #38

So far the host(s) have done fine A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #42

Not in the HRC and Obama groups. Too much banning by hosts. leveymg May 2015 #44

I'm talking about the Bernie Sanders group. A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #50

We haven't had SOP rules until now. Our job now is to iron out the group rules before leveymg May 2015 #65

"We haven't has POS rules until now." A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #66

Please see change above leveymg May 2015 #67

Understood. A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #69

I hope this group will stand out as being better than the others. L0oniX May 2015 #97

We can stop these unwanted critters aspirant May 2015 #100

We are not being flooded with "unwanted critters". L0oniX May 2015 #103

+1 Puglover May 2015 #107

I have made multiple points on this OP for change aspirant May 2015 #109

I think we can find a place that's somewhere between a fan club and a free-for-all. smokey nj May 2015 #115

Yeah I agree ...I don't think it's going to be a problem. L0oniX May 2015 #116

Your drinking the Kool-Aid, huh aspirant May 2015 #117

That's not it at all, and if you knew me you wouldn't say that. smokey nj May 2015 #118

I guess I don't know you, Good Luck aspirant May 2015 #120

Sorry you feel that way, aspirant. smokey nj May 2015 #121

Don't be sorry aspirant May 2015 #122

Nice job on the pinned threads. MerryBlooms May 2015 #22

Thank you for your work and I am glad to see we have some excellent hosts. Also, glad to rhett o rick May 2015 #43

Does anyone here think this group aspirant May 2015 #46

I understand your point however this statement stands out... Agschmid May 2015 #52

Are "adverse opinions" aspirant May 2015 #72

Okay, I laughed with this: A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #73

NASA? You can bet that if anyone indicates there is a negative before a launch it will be addressed. L0oniX May 2015 #84

So has Bernie aspirant May 2015 #85

At this point I can only think of one negative. L0oniX May 2015 #86

I would like for you to be clear aspirant May 2015 #87

I've been clear enough. L0oniX May 2015 #89

No answer on #2 aspirant May 2015 #95

If you have a problem with what Agschmid said I suggest you respond to Agschmid. L0oniX May 2015 #101

Totally agree LOoniX Puglover May 2015 #106

I did respond Post # 72 aspirant May 2015 #111

There's nothing to stop the group from changing rules or the SOP ...if it is needed. L0oniX May 2015 #112

You already know Bernie has a long track record on his positions. L0oniX May 2015 #88

"We should promote his positives" aspirant May 2015 #91

Personally I'd rather see us focus on offense and not defense. L0oniX May 2015 #92

So why are you not for a defensive plan aspirant May 2015 #96

I'm not going to play along with your reading into posts that which is not there. L0oniX May 2015 #98

Thanks Loonix aspirant May 2015 #104

I stand for Bernie Sanders. L0oniX May 2015 #105

Same. Agschmid May 2015 #123

Bernie don't play that way - it's too divisive blm May 2015 #131

+1 L0oniX May 2015 #83

This group supposed to be a safe heaven, imho, not a place for "adverse opinions" darkangel218 May 2015 #113

I tried going to the link that had his website. I registered and all it wanted patricia92243 May 2015 #53

His senate page is your best bet at this time. Agschmid May 2015 #55

Nice Work! NYC_SKP May 2015 #62

Thanks! Agschmid May 2015 #63

The SOP needs to clearly say, aspirant May 2015 #75

I hesitate to comment MuseRider May 2015 #90

"PLEASE do not make this the BOG or others like it" L0oniX May 2015 #93

Thank you. blm May 2015 #102

Very nice to see you again too MuseRider May 2015 #119

heheh�.still here working to keep it honest, Muse�. blm May 2015 #124

Good luck with that! MuseRider May 2015 #125

; ) blm May 2015 #126

Indeed, thank you! Agschmid May 2015 #129

yep Kali May 2015 #130

Hey stage left May 2015 #99

good post, stage A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #127

Thanks stage left May 2015 #128

I like it! arcane1 May 2015 #114