Bernie Sanders

Phlem

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64. The Party needs to attract voters, not the other way around

Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:06 PM

Mar 2016

which is what they seem to be doing. Disenfranchised voters will go where they want. Simple as that.

Being that the party for the working man/woman has a wannabe leader, that has pocketed for $40+ million working in the public service sector, and the party deems her inevitable and all.

I wouldn't blame democrats for being disenfranchised and leaving.

I havn't trusted our party since Bill Clinton and it seems to be continuing on that path.

A 2016 articles:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clintons-advantage-hits-campaign-low-lags-trust-leading/story?id=36524847

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/17/poll-hillary-clinton-least-honest-and-trustworthy-of-all-presidential-candidates/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/08/hillary-clintons-honest-and-trustworthy-numbers-are-lower-than-ever-it-might-not-matter/

Republicans seem to think she's the leader they need however. Go figure.

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The number of Bernie supporters who say they won't vote for HRC must be devastating. [View all] Fawke Em Mar 2016 OP

Clinton has indicated her willingness to compromise with Republicans on abortion... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #1

True. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #2

DT and HC have both heavily donated to the PP PatrynXX Mar 2016 #4

Donating out of sympathy or tax write-off? PADemD Mar 2016 #105

Maybe they donate... DeadEyeDyck Mar 2016 #139

It was her stance on this and the death penalty that made it impossible for me to vote for her. DookDook Mar 2016 #43

That's regressive not progressive. k8conant Mar 2016 #107

Yup. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #3

^ I agree. StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #21

When I took the istandwith.com test dorkzilla Mar 2016 #60

I actually got iirc 100% with Jill... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #68

I think I was 99% BS dorkzilla Mar 2016 #70

In this case, "fear of the other candidate" is a DAMN good reason! William Seger Mar 2016 #86

Stop it... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #115

I'm talking real world William Seger Mar 2016 #127

Nonsense. I was there Lorien Mar 2016 #130

Voting for Nader was the SAME THING as not coming out William Seger Mar 2016 #149

It was actually election fraud by the GOP in Florida, along with State police Lorien Mar 2016 #128

Yes I am aware of this. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #138

The result was the one Nader supporters voted for: Bush won William Seger Mar 2016 #148

Debunked: The Myth That Ralph Nader Cost Al Gore the 2000 Election eridani Mar 2016 #155

Debunking the debunking William Seger Mar 2016 #161

Blame the Democrats who voted for Bush. Plenty of the Nader voters would have stayed home n/t eridani Mar 2016 #166

Oh, don't worry; I blame them, too William Seger Mar 2016 #167

I'd rather gnaw off my own arm than be blackmailed into voting for the anti-Bernie. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #112

Sign the petition: Lorien Mar 2016 #147

Signed (nt) Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #169

They finally went way too far with that shitty tactic Lorien Mar 2016 #113

I have asked numerous times on DU for a Hillary LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #141

"more baggage than the Duggar family on a world cruise" and kath Mar 2016 #143

Thanks! You have just made my night! 😊 LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #144

If the Democratic Party slams the door... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #5

Time to leave them to it. nt artislife Mar 2016 #9

That may well happen. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #16

Except for two retirees here who are for Bernie! Duval Mar 2016 #25

This one is for Bernie also! peacebird Mar 2016 #57

As is this old gal! nt marew Mar 2016 #76

Yo...another crone here! haikugal Mar 2016 #103

Haven't they already done so? n/t fredamae Mar 2016 #33

DWS is an idiot for what she had done. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #51

She's doing what her corporate masters pay her to do.... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #56

Never think they make fredamae Mar 2016 #156

Turnout is already low. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #52

Exactly. forest444 Mar 2016 #54

This is still very far from over. Half-Century Man Mar 2016 #6

Problem is with a weak candidate at the top of the ticket voters will not come out tularetom Mar 2016 #10

I think many will vote down ticket to set the record straight that the wrong candidate was bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #53

It's a matter of allowing ourselves to be killed quickly or slowly. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #14

This is exactly it. Half-Century Man Mar 2016 #23

Excellent analysis! jillan Mar 2016 #97

Oh, absolutely! nt marew Mar 2016 #101

I'm all for hitting rock bottom ASAP HRC isnot prgrsv Mar 2016 #117

If it was an animal we'd put it down right away. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #125

I'm not feeling it astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #7

You may want to vote for the progressive on the ballot artislife Mar 2016 #11

Not advocating it,.... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #17

Didn't know that. I'll check out the Green Party. Duval Mar 2016 #27

Jill Stein video improvingthecountry Mar 2016 #91

And here on DU: all the bad apples got dumped Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #8

Do they not realize they're just pushing Bernie supporters away from Hillary? Fawke Em Mar 2016 #15

They don't appear to be that smart. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #19

They're not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed. kath Mar 2016 #145

they can eat... dana_b Mar 2016 #26

They think Bernie supporters are not educated (very wrong) and just regular joes (many are not) bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #55

You are so right on that one! nt marew Mar 2016 #104

They were the earliest group to realize they were being played and had their eyes open for an GoneFishin Mar 2016 #114

It's not just that we've been played... DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #134

Yep. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #157

Lol. I really enjoy your posts. jillan Mar 2016 #98

I hadn't noticed how civil it actually was here until they all came back. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #39

+1 dana_b Mar 2016 #48

Agreed. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #49

+1!!!! dorkzilla Mar 2016 #62

Yale beat Baylor today. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #100

^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Mar 2016 #136

I sgree. CentralMass Mar 2016 #140

Nominee or not, I'm still casting my vote for Sanders. If I have to write him in. So be it. eom. TalkingDog Mar 2016 #12

My thoughts exactly..n/t monmouth4 Mar 2016 #13

Roger That cantbeserious Mar 2016 #137

A SC nominee who apparently has had little to nothing to say on Roe v Wade?! WTF? kath Mar 2016 #18

Did Scalia personally recommend that nominee Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #108

This is how real politicians get things done. abelenkpe Mar 2016 #142

I'm a man, but bernbabe Mar 2016 #20

Yep. I am most certain RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #22

tough shit dana_b Mar 2016 #24

Yep, they are killing the party, the country and DU. Very sad. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #40

Every Crisis Presents an Opportunity HRC isnot prgrsv Mar 2016 #121

Hillary has, flat out, been nasty mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #42

no doubt! And i own up to my nastiness dana_b Mar 2016 #45

It's hard not to be nasty mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #61

Amen! If they want to keep a declared repug out of the WH, VOTE FOR BERNIE! Lorien Mar 2016 #116

If hrc, et all Faux pas Mar 2016 #28

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If someone told me, a woman, that I should "woman up" and support a woman who has djean111 Mar 2016 #29

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The problem is Hillary cannot win the GE. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #31

Not even if her opponent is Donald Trump? n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #44

Especially not. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #50

I know in my bones you are right, but it makes me nauseous to think about. Gmak Mar 2016 #165

Just now on cnn the repugs on the panel were jillan Mar 2016 #99

There are already libraries of books og opposition research on her and Trump HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #160

And yet it's still a smaller number than the number of Sanders' supporters some people imagine merrily Mar 2016 #32

Some of us will be voting in November to protect America. LonePirate Mar 2016 #35

The Fatal Flaw in Dems Math fredamae Mar 2016 #36

Indys have no allegiance dana_b Mar 2016 #38

Exactly. fredamae Mar 2016 #41

so when they say "but Hillary has more votes now so how do you dana_b Mar 2016 #46

Yes-2016 Is Different... fredamae Mar 2016 #47

She can't even bring the Dems. I know plenty of them that won't vote for her no matter what. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #158

I'm not an Indy yet noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #82

Bernie could easily win with the Independent vote. Hillary? Not so much Lorien Mar 2016 #119

A crazy thought justaddh2o Mar 2016 #58

holy crap dana_b Mar 2016 #59

You really think so? justaddh2o Mar 2016 #65

Anyone who can't win a major party nomination can't win the general William Seger Mar 2016 #67

Bernie isn't Nadar though justaddh2o Mar 2016 #73

It's great to dream, but sometimes you gotta get real William Seger Mar 2016 #85

no, not at all dana_b Mar 2016 #74

But if Indys make up 43% justaddh2o Mar 2016 #78

I'll keep fighting for Bernie, but if he can't get past the MSM and DNC Lorien Mar 2016 #123

Interesting... justaddh2o Mar 2016 #90

IMO Hillary is a 3rd party candidate (Third Way, DLC). Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #131

Yes indeed, she is. Lorien Mar 2016 #133

+10,000 However according to Wikipedia, Third Way is quite acceptable here. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #159

~links Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #163

I would start doubling my donations for that Bernie ticket. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #118

I think we have to be true to ourselves first humbled_opinion Mar 2016 #63

The Party needs to attract voters, not the other way around Phlem Mar 2016 #64

Being a woman... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #69

your succulent ass? LOL!! dana_b Mar 2016 #75

Well, I'm getting on up in years... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #83

I agree and sent you the results . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #80

? malokvale77 Mar 2016 #84

I was asked serve as a juror, someone asked to Hide your post We voted 0-7 Leave it, I tried to mail orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #92

Thank you malokvale77 Mar 2016 #93

This orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #154

Good one! LOL nt marew Mar 2016 #106

Thank you malokvale77 Mar 2016 #110

Sorry Skinner Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #71

Ditto. SoapBox Mar 2016 #129

Unfortunately for them, I don't believe in the No Win Scenario. JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #72

Captain Kirk beat the "no win scenario" too. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #132

#StillSanders noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #77

Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #79

And he's absolutely correct Lorien Mar 2016 #124

A vote for anyone other than Bernie is a vote to deprive Milennials Lorien Mar 2016 #126

Many Many Thanks SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #153

#StillSanders - TBF Mar 2016 #81

Couldn't agree more improvingthecountry Mar 2016 #87

You nailed it swilton Mar 2016 #88

I read somewhere that it is 33% Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #89

I will not heel. nt ladyVet Mar 2016 #94

Hillary won Florida with only 25% of registered Dem voters voting. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #95

As a Floridian I can tell you; elections in Florida are so hopelessly corrupt Lorien Mar 2016 #120

It must be in the brazillions. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #96

I've seem some very cruel stuff on twitter CountAllVotes Mar 2016 #102

Their voter outreach Livluvgrow Mar 2016 #109

Exactly. I might of held my nose a year ago Lorien Mar 2016 #122

I will switch my support to Jill Stein if the MSM and DNC keep Bernie from becoming the nominee Lorien Mar 2016 #111

HRC Is Owned By The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Make No Mistake About Her Loyalties cantbeserious Mar 2016 #135

There's even a petition that will be delivered to the DNC: Lorien Mar 2016 #146

It isn't because they're Bernie supporters. delrem Mar 2016 #150

I will vote for the Democratic nominee but only reluctantly for HRC if it is her. mikehiggins Mar 2016 #151

So why would you vote for her? delrem Mar 2016 #152

Absolutely agree. No difference between leftcoastmountains Mar 2016 #162

If Clinton wins, Sanders will support her. However ... Babel_17 Mar 2016 #164

"... there's really very little difference between a Hillary or a tRump..." BeanMusical Mar 2016 #168