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Bernie Sanders

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Playinghardball

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Thu Jun 25, 2015, 04:23 PM Jun 2015

It's Official -- Bernie Sanders Has Overtaken Hillary Clinton In the Hearts and Minds of Democrats [View all]

According to PBS, Bernie Sanders is "gaining against Clinton in early polls." Salon's Bill Curry believes "Hillary Clinton is going lose," primarily because millions of voters longing for a truly progressive candidate will nominate Sanders. POLITICO explained recently that Early-state polls hint at a Bernie Sanders surge, a headline that was unthinkable only several months earlier. Yahoo's Meredith Shiner calls Sanders a "progressive social media star and pragmatic legislator" and states that "Sanders also has a much more substantial legislative history" than any GOP challenger. In Iowa, 1,100 people packed a gym to hear Bernie Sanders speak in May.

In contrast, Team Hillary had an intimate business roundtable discussion with five "ordinary" Iowans. The only problem was that according to The Washington Post, "All five were selected to attend her events." In fact, Clinton's "staged roundtables" were attended by a total of 13 Iowans, picked by either the campaign or the host.

Therefore, a paradigm shift has taken place. Many Iowans drove 50 miles to hear Sanders speak in Des Moines, primarily because Bernie Sanders has surpassed Clinton as the ideal choice for Democratic nominee. Regarding electability, Sanders has also surpassed Clinton as the realistic choice for Democratic nominee in the minds of many voters, because as one Salon piece illustrates, Hillary "just doesn't get it."

When it comes to everything from immigration to climate change and economic issues (most Americans side with Democrats, according to Pew research and other data) some writers believe that Democrats "can nominate a ham sandwich and win the presidency." Although once thought of as an impossibility, a closer look at the electoral map shows why Bernie Sanders could realistically defeat any GOP challenger. If voters around the country still care about middle class economics, the federal budget, trade and other hot button issues in 2016, Sanders has a legitimate chance to win. Also, since Sanders isn't tied to Obama fatigue like Hillary Clinton, it's quite possible the Vermont Senator re-energizes an America that just recently decided the Confederate flag doesn't represent its value system.

According to a POLITICO piece titled The 2016 Results We Can Already Predict, "Assuming the lean, likely, and safe Democratic states remain loyal to the party, the nominee need only win 23 of the 85 toss-up electoral votes." Therefore, there's no need to jettison cherished values for the sake of pragmatism; those days are over. Senator Bernie Sanders, known in Washington and throughout the nation as an advocate for middle class Americans, veterans, the environment, and other cherished causes can win crucial electoral votes just as easily as Hillary Clinton.

Finally, we're all asking a question that we've been too frightened to ask, for fear of seeming unrealistic:"Why Not Bernie?"

Not long ago, many Democrats emphasized realism over progressive values. Sure, Hillary voted for Iraq and has close ties to Wall Street, but she'll raise $2.5 billion, so doesn't this represent our best chance to beat the GOP? This mindset, however, ignored the fact that the Associated Press, Vice News, and others are suing the State Department for access to tens of thousands of Clinton's emails. A Bloomberg piece titled Hillary Clinton Monthly E-Mail Releases Must Begin in June Court Rules highlights the reality of eventual email disclosures:

The U.S. must begin to make public 30,000 e-mails belonging to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on a monthly basis beginning June 30, a federal judge ruled Wednesday amid competing proposals over their disclosure...

The State Department proposed releasing as many documents as possible at 60-day intervals, ending by Jan. 15. Attorneys for Vice News reporter Jason Leopold, who sued to gain access to the e-mails, proposed releases every two weeks.

Leopold's case is one of several seeking access to all or part of Clinton's State Department e-mail through the federal Freedom of Information Act.


More here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/its-official-bernie-sande_b_7660226.html
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Putting ALL snark aside, both Bernie and Hillary are just as surprised as some of us randys1 Jun 2015 #1
Fridays brunch with Bernie marlakay Jun 2015 #33
I don't know why they have to bring up the emails Grilled Charlie Jun 2015 #2
How can you not love Bernie? azmom Jun 2015 #3
Green Party Jill Stein needs to back out. glinda Jun 2015 #4
Agree totally swilton Jun 2015 #5
O'Malley deceit? daleanime Jun 2015 #9
google O'Malley deceit passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #15
Yes, she does. fredamae Jun 2015 #6
I disagree. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #8
Two words....Bush/Nader glinda Jun 2015 #10
Two words: Non sequiteur Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #13
People invested in PATRICK Jun 2015 #16
+1 azmom Jun 2015 #37
I have been around many Green Party Members and the desire for change glinda Jun 2015 #22
WTF? pocoloco Jun 2015 #14
No, OP says "Hillary Clinton is going lose" SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #20
DURec for Bernie.....my choice for President. bvar22 Jun 2015 #7
Didn't you get the memo? Bernie is "unelectable". nt antigop Jun 2015 #11
K & R Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #12
K&R! n/t Michigan-Arizona Jun 2015 #17
is there a single poll to show why hillary is going to lose to Bernie? samsingh Jun 2015 #18
Because polls are like the magic 8 ball. cui bono Jun 2015 #25
no - claims are made about polls showing Hillary losing support - so what's the problem in asking samsingh Jun 2015 #35
Polls this far out are meaningless anyway. merrily Jun 2015 #28
Hillary down to 8 point lead In NH Robbins Jun 2015 #19
Democratic pundits had been trying since 2012 merrily Jun 2015 #27
Some were saying Robbins Jun 2015 #30
They thought if they said it enough, they would discourage everyone else. merrily Jun 2015 #31
Yep Robbins Jun 2015 #34
I wish O'Malley would go after her, not Bernie. But, O'Malley wants to win, too. merrily Jun 2015 #39
My husband and I Duval Jun 2015 #21
Hell Yeah ... Trajan Jun 2015 #26
Bernmentum BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #23
FEEL THE BERN!!! cui bono Jun 2015 #24
love the graphic!! questionseverything Jun 2015 #36
Love this! sellitman Jun 2015 #29
K&R nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #32
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #38
K&R marym625 Jun 2015 #40
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